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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure where you live, but you underestimate the amount of people who can shoot a rifle. Also, while you can zero a hunting rifle at 100 yards, most bullets haven't apexed yet at 100, so the bullet will continue to raise up a bit before starting to drop.

All mostly irrelevant because the first 250 yards of almost any ammo is like 3 inches from its highest to lowest point.

Basically, if you're shooting less than 250 yards and your rifle is zeroed out anywhere from 50 to 200 yards, no matter what anything else is, if you put the cross hairs directly over the target that's 200 yards out you're going to be within 3" of your mark. When aiming at anything under 300 yards that's larger than a coyote you don't really have to worry about windage (unless it's very windy) or bullet drop or leading the target or anything. Target in cross hairs and fire is all that's required. I could get a complete novice to hit a melon at 200 yards in less than 10 minutes time so long as they don't flinch while pulling the trigger.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

I'm not sure where you live, but you underestimate the amount of people who can shoot a rifle.

I think you'd be surprised.... I live in Oklahoma, one of the highest gun per person populations in the US. However, this is not the norm when considering the entire US population. Only 20% of Americans live in rural areas, and not all of them regularly go out to the range. With a population nearing 350 million, only around 12 million people participate in rifle target shooting and less than that on a regular basis.

Also, while you can zero a hunting rifle at 100 yards, most bullets haven't apexed yet at 100, so the bullet will continue to raise up a bit before starting to drop

Again, have you ever taken a novice out to shoot with a hunting rifle? Most people barely understand how to zero a scope. There are only around 10 million people in the US that even hunt with rifles.

if you put the cross hairs directly over the target that's 200 yards out you're going to be within 3" of your mark.

That is a huge "if" for most people....I think you are underestimating how terrible of a shot the vast majority of people are.

I could get a complete novice to hit a melon at 200 yards in less than 10 minutes time so long as they don't flinch while pulling the trigger.

Right, but could you get a complete novice to cleanly take down a buck at 200 yards? Now imagine shooting at a person, and in a scenario that is likely to lead to your death or imprisonment immediately after.

Also "so long as they don't flinch while pulling the trigger" that takes a while for people to learn, and it gets a lot worse when aiming at something that's alive.