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[–] moakley@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

When it comes right down to it, people should have the right to be stupid and say stupid things. I hate watching my country collapse around me, and you can certainly draw a line from this asshole to our current situation, but words shouldn't be punished by death.

I get why it happened and why people are celebrating, but he wasn't one of the ones with blood on his hands. Figuratively, I mean.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I dunno. Words can kill. Presidents have ordered the assassination of people with words. I doubt hitler ever killed a single person himself. There is a line somewhere. It just hazy.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah he became rich selling hatred. Julius Streicher was hanged despite being out of favor for the entirety of the third Reich. I believe in artistic freedom but at a certain point one's art or speech is the sale of mass violence for profit

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

True, but should people also be protected from the consequences of their own idiocy? Until we can know more, I'm seeing this as a consequence of his talking shit.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It definitely is a consequence of his own actions. I just think that's a separate thing.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Charlie Kirk was a mouthpiece for more powerful and wealthy people, and not particularly novel in his ideas or rhetoric. He can and will be replaced, so what does this even accomplish except to instigate what will no doubt be a disproportionate response?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 5 months ago

Well, he's dead, so that's a plus. He died in an embarrassing way, so that's also a plus. Maybe the next would-be shithead will decide "nah, I'm not going to be a right wing grifter. I might get shot dead like Charlie Kirk". That's probably the biggest plus.