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To your point 6: I think a lot of you on the left are deeply, deeply underestimating how influential Charlie Kirk is, or was, among young conservatives and young people in general.
I mean, Kirk was on Gavin Newsom's podcast in March and Newsom talked about how his kids loved Kirk. How his 13-year-old son refused to go to school because he wanted to stay home and meet Charlie. And if that doesn't tell you how wide Kirk's appeal is among young people I don't know what would.
And look. A lot of people on the left also discount or ignore how young conservatives feel discriminated against in higher education. Rightly or wrongly, I'm talking about their beliefs, not the validity of those beliefs. Kids who come from red states with conservative Christian beliefs about sex, about gender, about what it means to be a man, they're proud to go to college so they can earn a better living and do better for their future children than their parents did for them. And then they hit the culture shock of college and both students and teachers are telling them "everything you believe is wrong, you're a bad person for believing it, and if you even try to argue for it we will ostracize you".
It's not just the homeschool kids from Prager U, either. There has been a hell of a chilling effect on campuses for a long time now, when it comes to any belief that somebody might call racist or sexist or bigoted. And I think that just reinforces those racist, sexist, and bigoted beliefs - because people are afraid to have the debates and learning experiences that might convince them they're wrong, because they're afraid to admit to having those beliefs in the first place, so they just keep their heads down, feel oppressed, and don't learn anything new.
And Kirk tells those young men "you are oppressed, it's not right, and I'm going to go to your campus and speak for you when you can't safely speak for yourself."
And then he does it.
And then some piece of shit shoots him.
Some young conservatives consider Kirk not just a political activist but a civil rights leader.
And he may well have just died for his beliefs.
In other words: the reaction to this could be very, very bad.
What the hell are u talking about? The shooter most definetly was not a piece of shit, the shooter is a hero! If someones beliefs are about opressing people and taking their rights away it's only right they are corrected or kicked the hell out of higher education.
Charlie was an awful human being, but his death will be used to harm a whole lot of people. I'd put the blame for that harm largely on the person that shot him
They would have harmed even more people weather kirk was alive or not. They may use the death of that piece of shit as a justification but they would have found some other thing to use as a justification anyways.