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Charlie Kirk shot and killed while speaking at Utah college (www.independent.co.uk)

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Charlie Kirk confirmed dead.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 81 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

It was a truly wildly impressive shot. One single shot taken over 200 yards away through a very limited angle that made an instant-kill hit, and no suspect in custody? Hmm...

It is extremely convenient that this happened immediately after the publication of the Epstein birthday book.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 70 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'd say it was convenient if there wasn't a major Trump scandal each week in the past ten years at least.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 10 points 5 months ago

Quite true... trumps already really good at distracting from his damning significant crimes with other crimes. I can't think of a week in 2025 where there's not something significant enough that they'd be looking for a distraction.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago

Like Trump needs distraction. He could breathe slightly funny or his hands could turn a different shade of purple and the news circus would move on from the birthday book tomorrow, which doesn't even confirm anything we didn't already know.

Killer was well-prepared and a good shot, unlike the weirdo who tried to take out Trump. The only unusual thing is that people who have the mental acumen to actually pull something like this off and not get caught immediately tend to be mentally stable enough not to attempt something like that.

But times are a-changing and political violence in the US is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. People forgot that the Rule of Law and Social Contract were meant not just as ways to prevent conservatives from implementing ethnic/religious fundamentalism, but also to prevent this exact kind of thing happening. Trump is at the helm of a government he seemingly distrusts, whose own rules he constantly breaks or ignores, whose institutions he actively sabotages, whose fundamental principles he spits on. As a consequence trust in all three branches of government is crumbling, which inevitably legitimizes political violence as a last resort vector of change.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

200 yards is a very novice distance with a rifle.

[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I used to shoot competitively (service rifle across-the-course), and we'd shoot 200 yards off-hand. We don't know if the shooter was prone, sitting/kneeling, or standing. If they were standing (because they wanted to beat a quick retreat) then it was a hell of a shot. Honestly, even if they were prone it's not bad. Given the nature of the shooting, it appears that the shooter didn't want collateral damage. There were a LOT of people there, and that pressure would make any shot harder.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 months ago

Standing offhand at 200 yards on a non moving target would be a pretty good shot, especially with no warm up and nerves, but I'm assuming the shooter was prone or resting the rifle on something.

It's just tons of people in here have been blasting that this is some sort of big distance for the shot, when it really isn't. Most anyone could shoot accurately enough at that distance with a small bit of practice.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

From the video on the roof he looks prone and using the edge of the roof as a "tripod". I also believe he was going for a head shot but didn't calculate bullet drop properly. This is all speculation taken out of my ass of course.