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I have to admit for a moment when I saw people commenting he was probably dead, I was glad. But after watching that video, I honestly feel like a piece of shit. Even if this somehow leads to something good. Which it probably won't. Blowing someone's throat out with a gun is just so viscerally awful.
Just remember that he said it's necessary for people to die by gun violence in order to protect the second amendment. This is quite literally what he wanted, except he wanted it to happen to somebody he thought to be lesser than him.
You should go back to feeling glad.
bingo. According to Kirk he went out the way he would have wanted to go out. I don't feel sorry for him and neither should anyone else. He was a Nazi, you don't sympathize with Nazi's you celebrate their extermination.
To OP, don't feel like a piece of shit bro. If you were speaking at some event and you got blasted in the throat Kirk would NOT have felt ANYTHING for you whatsoever. Don't waste your time on him, one less Nazi on the planet.
Am I numb? Maybe. But after shitwits like him supporting genocide, imperialism, school shootings, rape, political violence, domestic violence, and persecution, I'm done feeling empathy for fascists.
Did you watch the video?
Yep. Several times. Felt nothing.
How could you feel nothing? I had to call my doctor because 4 hours later, my erection hadn't subsided.
That is cold blooded.
Maybe. But I've watched much better people than him, who did far less to deserve it, die.
That one of the biggest cheerleaders of fascism here in the States, in both advocating for genocide here and abroad, got iced is basically celebratory. Insofar as it's one less Nazi in the world, not so much that it'll do anything worthwhile beyond that.
Not the guy you were responding to, but i found it awful in a "man i hope this doesnt happen to me or anyone i love" kinda way. But i just can not bring myself to feel any empathy towards someone like that. If something like this would make me genuinely feel bad, then i would have a heart attack any time i see pictures from Gaza.
cant feel warmth for people who push so much hate out into the world.
kirk died for what he believed in. guns and political violence
Yeah, I'll admit to a small amount of schadenfreude at the news, but that video.
Jesus.
He was still a massive piece of shit, but that's a rough way to go.
You have empathy. That's something to be lauded
That's where I'm trying to land with it: I did not like that man and hated the viewpoints he advocated, but with his death there's a wife missing her husband, children their father, parents their son, and I can feel bad for them around this situation.
I'm reaching for empathy- if there's a hope of getting through this current mess with our souls intact it'll be by reaching for empathy, even when it's hard.
Doing the hard thing when it's the hardest thing to do is how we move out of the primitive brain and into higher functioning
Is it? It's probably not painless, but it is a fast and not particularly painful death. Too good for him I'd say.
Im just gonna leave this here. There is much more like it on his Wikipedia page:
Yeah, he was a piece of shit for sure
it's awful to see happen to a human, but remember, he doesn't think a ton of people are human, so fuck him
Yeah I'm honestly kinda dealing with these two conflicting feelings.
On the one hand, I want to feel empathy for a human who has been shot, likely killed.
But on the other hand, I remember all the people he wants this to happen to, and I think of all the people he can't hurt anymore. He would certainly have been cheering if this happened to me. And my empathy for the people he's hurt trumps my empathy for him. Numerically it would be sufficient, but the people Charlie wants to destroy have generically done nothing to him.
Personally if I have to be assassinated, I'm cool with going out like that. Looked like he was out like a light. Sure it's gross, but that wouldn't be my problem anymore.
The thing is, feeling empathy for him isn't for him. It's not about what the victim would have wanted or what he would have done if the roles were reversed.
It's a reaction that you feel because you know what it's like to be a person.
I think part of what bothers me is his age. I can't see it hitting me like this if it happened to trump. Not that I can even say Kirk actually deserved to live.
Now that I've had some more time to read about it, apparently his wife and kids were there. Seriously, poor kiddos likely saw their dad publicly assassinated, and no kids deserve that 😞
Yeah I saw that too. A part of me thinks this marks a larger escalation too.
Viscerally awful just like him. I'd say it's appropriate, really.
Welcome to the real world.
People in other parts of the world see this shit every fucking day happening to innocent people.
It’s a privilege to find this awful. You want this to be awful for everyone? Then, people like Charlie Kirk need to turn their shit around or die.
You just shamed me for having a small amount of empathy for a person I despise. What is wrong with you? What is broken inside you to talk to anyone like this?
Think about what you’re saying.
Think about what’s happening to other people in the world.
Think about your privilege.
And think about what Charlie Kirk did with that privilege.
You first. I'd get banned for telling you what you deserve
Coward.
Call for more violence directly, since you are so brave.
You know where you stand, coward.
Do it
I will. More dead nazis, please, like way more.
You take them out then
So you’re against the idea of dead nazis?
Yes exactly that, you Rhodes Scholar, you.
So, you’re a nazi sympathizer?
Exactly that /s
Blocked!
I mean, wanting to protect nazis is exactly that.
Pathetic
Don’t let your heart bleed for nazis, they’ve all got it coming.