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This is actually from 2022, but I missed it back in the day. This is quite important research imo, and very relevant lately. Link to the paper itself: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0747563222001637

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i think if less tolerance for religion became more commonplace, it might be better for mental health in general honestly.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think the issue is not "religion" because that's hard to define. What do you count as a religion and what not? It's kinda not clearly defined. I.e., you can "believe" in science, yet does the belief make it a religion?

I think what's more the issue is the fact that people cling to nonsensical statements and are unwilling to look at things the way they are. I.e. a recurring theme of religion is that it absolves people from thinking, i.e. from making their own thoughts and relating those to reality. That is the thing that must be dealt with.

In other words, people must be taught to think and analyze the world around (and inside of) them. That is what leads to wellbeing and happyness.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 3 points 9 hours ago

religion is an issue. and its not difficult to define.

i agree with your second paragraph. its why i think its time to start being less hospitable to any and all religion.

the less religion the world has, the better that people can be educated as you've said.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Funny, but this just poses further questions. I.e. is it the absence of religion that causes wellbeing, or is it wellbeing that causes the absence of religion?

I was told the story by a stranger once: The reason why people cling to religion is because they are unable to live their own life, i.e. they struggle and can't live in the moment, because it would be too depressing, so they cling to religion to seek an escape. Religion absolves them from thinking and therefore from recognizing the world around them, and so it's an escape. So, in this view, bad times cause religion, but not the other way around. At least it's one possible explanation. I don't know whether it's true.

I'm just saying, don't confuse correlation with causality. Correlation does not imply causality in general. (though in this case it probably does)

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

As someone who grew up in the brainwashing, I can fucking guarantee you religion causes suffering and shame and a disconnect from the human that we all are. It is completely causational.

No, that doesn't mean it has a 100% rate of suffering, but it's damn close.