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[–] Regna@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Before they change the law, they should deal with the issue that we don’t have enough rehab facilities for young offenders. And those facilities that we have don’t meet the requirements of current laws and regulations.

We can’t put the kids in prisons with hardened adult criminals. These kids need rehabilitation, help with getting free from drugs (many get hooked on Tramadol and other drugs when they start working with gangs) and schooling so that they can be integrated back into society when they’re free again.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

don't forget that those existing facilites are badly mismanaged, rampant with abuse, and the reason some of these kids are criminals to begin with.

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, I entirely agree, which is why I am adamant that this should be fixed before the law change sends more kids from troubled circumstances into a hell hole with no options.

[–] murvel@feddit.nu 1 points 2 hours ago

The prison system is meant to rehabilitate as well. The difference being that from a prison they cannot just up and leave to go murder someone and then come back.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

oh don't worry they'll probably be sent to estonia

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Holy hell, that’s a kind of joke that hurts too much to be fun. Nothing bad against Estonia, I have family there, but their correctional facilities are not up to good standards.

[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

They're discussing transfer to the Tartu prison in Estonia. It's perfectly fine and modern. Look into it if you want.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

it's also where we (as in sweden) decided to rent prison space because we ran out.

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago
[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fair enough, that would be the carrot, this is the stick

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

No, ”the stick” IS rehab, schooling, counseling etc. Or it should be. Prisons in Sweden are rehabilitation oriented, but putting hardened criminals together with kids is not the right approach.

Many of these kids have been groomed and then hooked on drugs like Tramadol, so that a small reward like a nice e-scooter, designer shoes or money has overrun their already lacking sense of consequences.

We have had kids who got sent into substandard rehab facilities and got murdered for refusing to commit murders. So before the law change sends more kids into limbo, we desperately need to have solutions for rehab in place. Which we lack.