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[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

So... the western liberals who openly protest against this are what, mince meat? Do you people even know what political terms mean anymore?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There's a huge movement on Lemmy to split anything and anyone opposed to fascism. They'll find any wedge they can to do so.

Wonder where it's coming from.

It's the same pattern as the original r/the_donald. At first it's all artificial, but then you attract some true believers which can be used as cover.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Because leftists and liberals have inherently opposed ideologies that cannot agree on the basic way to oppose fascists. A core axom of most leftist thought is that fascism is the end stage of liberalism. It's the ideological equivalent of cows and chickens working together at a Chick-fil-A

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This narrative stifles dissent from anyone who disagrees with you. The Democratic platform attempts to reconcile a large tent of competing views. So we should not assume that criticism of "our side" is evidence of ulterior motives. We all need to demand more when we see our government failing so spectacularly.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Now it's "The Democratic Platform"?

I thought it was liberals.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

anything and anyone opposed to fascism

Responding to this

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I just ask them: Show me the demolished deathcamp, then I can see if you really are antifa.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And that strawman is an excellent example of why you are not arguing in good faith.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The strawman being that 🇺🇲s enjoy deathcamps?

[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 4 points 2 days ago

Tankies hate nuance.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 3 days ago

Protesting, or letting Chairman Trump construct more deathcamps?

How can you protest something that is being conducted in your own yards? Have you, no ability to reflect?

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The post is about the hypocrisy of western governments who espouse values of liberty, justice, equality, human rights, etc. but act in contradiction to those values at every turn. Many liberals also profess to hold these values but repeatedly support politicians who use their tax dollars to harm/exploit marginalized communities around the globe.

Obviously this post isn't directed at the people who protest against these things. But the people who protested for Palestine (including Arab Americans) were blamed for losing the election, even though the data does not support this accusation.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A government? With hypocrisy? Lawd, my delicate sensibilities!

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

My point exactly. This callousness exemplifies the American isolationist mindset. Most of us, whether democrat or republican, typically only care about how policy personally affects us. Which is why this country has to go through hell before any real change can happen.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

it's ok i'm sure this bear is against the gazan jihad as well