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Do you also believe there's manosphere influencers that legitimately want to help young men get laid by selling them protein supplements?
I'm not a leftist that thinks someone making a living is inherently bad. I think people making millions of dollars by gifting the gullible on the internet is bad. If Hasan and Vaush were giving tours of their houses and showing off their lambos or whatever, I'd respect them more than what they're currently doing. I still wouldn't respect that either because that's trashy, but getting living a life of luxury by scamming people with cult-like ideology is the lowest of the low. This is MAGA megachurch kinda shit.
I think we both agree that in order for it to be a grift it needs to be insincere, right?
From what I've seen, I think they're both sincere.
What I'm hearing from you is that they're not sincere because... They have money?
So if they had less money, but produce the exact same content they do today, you would cease to call them a grift?
Am I understanding you correctly?
How do you measure their sincerity? Is it the charity drives? Is it the way he insults trans people? Or the way he makes fun of victims of SA? I'm curious.
I think your sources are either lying to you or not digging deeper than out of context clips.
I don't know Hassan as well, but I would guess they're on the same page. Vaush has never seriously insulted trans people or seriously made fun of SA victims. Vaush is pro trans. And has seriously looked at public SA accusations on social media. Vaush also gives moral guidance against SA.
As for the sincerity. He has explained his ideology from first principles. And they seem consistent to me. And his actions are in line with his ideology.
Now there's no way to be sure of course. And you have a right to your own opinion.