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And what business would that be? The business of getting you to buy from their merch store so they can increase their wealth. They are all millionaires and they've convinced you that's all good and fine because they do their shows from sets that look like college dorms. That's the para-social thing grifters do where they make to feel like they're your friends which is why you feel the need to stick up for them.
Do you really believe millionaires want a socialist revolution? LOL
The business of organizing and spreading leftist propaganda.
I believe some millionaires want socialist revolution. Remember the bourgeoisie are not happy, even if they are better off than everyone else. They're alienated from their fellow man. The system keeps them afraid, makes them think their only option is to make more money. This all causes further isolation and fear.
If you're so concerned about it. You should probably get off Lemmy. The people who run Lemmy servers are running a business. They accept donations just like Vaush and Hassan. You're tainting yourself with capitalism by even posting here.
Do you also believe there's manosphere influencers that legitimately want to help young men get laid by selling them protein supplements?
I'm not a leftist that thinks someone making a living is inherently bad. I think people making millions of dollars by gifting the gullible on the internet is bad. If Hasan and Vaush were giving tours of their houses and showing off their lambos or whatever, I'd respect them more than what they're currently doing. I still wouldn't respect that either because that's trashy, but getting living a life of luxury by scamming people with cult-like ideology is the lowest of the low. This is MAGA megachurch kinda shit.
I think we both agree that in order for it to be a grift it needs to be insincere, right?
From what I've seen, I think they're both sincere.
What I'm hearing from you is that they're not sincere because... They have money?
So if they had less money, but produce the exact same content they do today, you would cease to call them a grift?
Am I understanding you correctly?
How do you measure their sincerity? Is it the charity drives? Is it the way he insults trans people? Or the way he makes fun of victims of SA? I'm curious.
I think your sources are either lying to you or not digging deeper than out of context clips.
I don't know Hassan as well, but I would guess they're on the same page. Vaush has never seriously insulted trans people or seriously made fun of SA victims. Vaush is pro trans. And has seriously looked at public SA accusations on social media. Vaush also gives moral guidance against SA.
As for the sincerity. He has explained his ideology from first principles. And they seem consistent to me. And his actions are in line with his ideology.
Now there's no way to be sure of course. And you have a right to your own opinion.
You are insane if you don't think all people can want socialist revolution. This is exactly the edge where you become violent and hostile. Boohooo you are not rich. It's not about that. It's about the abundance being kept from those in need to encourage slave like working conditions.. of course you can be against that even if you are a millionaire.
If I became violent and hostile, guys like Vaush and Hasan would be the first up against the wall. Not that I would of course, the violent rhetoric is all a part of their cult bullshit. I'd rather they go to prison for the frauds they are. But the list of faudsters is long, we'd have to build a new prison to fit all the Trumps, Rogans, Vaushes, Hasans, etc. that the internet is infested with.
They're all doing the same thing, but the algorithms got you into an isolated little group that prevents you from seeing it. Add room to the prison for Musk, Zuckerberg, and whoever runs Google too.