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Rapists know they'd be punished and/or shunned if they spoke of their crimes, so they don't talk about it.
Victims on the other hand are encouraged to seek help; talking through the trauma as a means of coping and healing.
It only makes sense the victim would be more commonly known about than the offender.
On top of that; a rapist is more likely to have created multiple victims, it's not just a 1:1 comparison.
This is the most logical conclusion.
Although I will say, I've met people that openly admitted to terrible behavior. Not rape, but very shitty things nontheless.
And when I hear someone admit to shitty behavior, I tend to distance myself from them long before they get to the point of admitting rape or any other form of SA.
Exactly, that's why we have to end the punitive and carceral 'justice' system that doesn't work and move to a restorative and transformative justice system instead.
This would lead to less harm over time as it would not only remove the conditions that make people fear speaking out about their abuse, but also lead to teaching people not to abuse in the first place.
The reason why such things happen is because of abuse growing up and a lack of education on how to go about having good relationships with others, gender roles and toxic relationships with those who are supposed to care for us is a huge problem and the current system is incapable of dealing with, catching and changing these problems because they simply put do not wish the status quo to change, it benefits them.
If the power in society was not put with 'parents' and allowed communities to catch, educate and modify such behaviour and remove children from such situations over time it would lower such problems. The current system does not seek to deal with the root causes, it only punishes long after any such harm and bad lessons have been taught which clearly does not work.
That's why we need restorative and transformative justice to remove the core power dynamics in relationships and throughout society which lead to such things, it wouldn't be overnight, but then the current system clearly doesn't know how to nor does it wish to get rid of these things and so it isn't ever going to deal with them.
The only proper way to deal with a rapist, is they must be removed from society, by any means necessary. Certain groups cannot be tolerated, no matter how forgiving a society.
Disagree.
You think rape is forgivable?
I think that's up to the victim/survivor.
I do not think that reducing it down to always throw the person out no matter what is a good solution. I think punishment to that degree should always be a last resort, and we should work on dealing with the systems that allow such things to happen and give such people therapy, and make sure the variables such as entitlement, the patriarchy, and abuse etc do not happen.
We should give people the emotional tools to deal with rejection and safe people/spaces they can go to without judgement if they have done things or want to do things so they can work through it.
At the same time I believe we should also give victims/survivors (or potential ones) more control and power in this system so they can fight such people off and not be punished for it.
My goal and desire is for a society where people are taught not to do such things in the first place and gave the ability to deal with no etc. However, in the mean time it's clear a transition is needed and punishing and locking people up clearly does not prevent it, so let's try something better which might have a chance of reducing and eventually eliminating such actions.
I wish you luck with that then. It's more likely for society to go in the direction of harsh punishments for lesser things instead.
Thank you. Yeah, it'll be a long road full of twists and turns, but we'll get there eventually.
One person can ve raped multiple times by multiple people too. Numbers could be equivalent.
But also youre completely missing the fuckung point. I think on purpose.
We also have to consider that maybe rape victims and rapists have a different number of acquaintances. And there's association effects, too. If someone is a nice person I'd expect it more likely they know a rape victim than a rapist, regardless of gender.
I always feel like there's always been a 'wrong side of the tracks' mentality. You're not wrong, but the biggest rape caravan is in charge of the US federal government, pretty popular. Even this isn't as much a matter of left and right, so much as up and down.
Wait do I know a rapist if I'm familiar with the idea of Donald Trump from the news? Or do I have to have met them?
I think this about about being in a rapist's trusted circle.
Wait so the woman in the meme is condemning men for not being in a rapist's trusted circle?
Personally I hope the men in my life aren't friends with rapists
It's accusing men of being passive observers and not speaking up about rapists that they know about, but the statistics don't really imply most men know rapists.
It is suggesting that a lot of men know rapists and don't do anything about it and I absolutely positive there is no data to actually back that up.
The meme is suggesting most men know rapists. The statistics do not.
Ngl, if I did know a rapist, I'd probably just tell other people and expect them to do something about it. I'm too much of a coward nowadays.
The problem is, even if you know someone is a rapist or any other type of sex pest, if you want to sound the alarm, you need evidence. You can privately warn people that trust you, but without evidence, it becomes credibility vs credibility.
I think mostly categorically, doesn't have to be any one person, but having a class of people quite clearly in control and also part of the rapist coalition is telling