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Witches VS Patriarchy

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 226 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Rapists know they'd be punished and/or shunned if they spoke of their crimes, so they don't talk about it.

Victims on the other hand are encouraged to seek help; talking through the trauma as a means of coping and healing.

It only makes sense the victim would be more commonly known about than the offender.

On top of that; a rapist is more likely to have created multiple victims, it's not just a 1:1 comparison.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the most logical conclusion.

Although I will say, I've met people that openly admitted to terrible behavior. Not rape, but very shitty things nontheless.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

And when I hear someone admit to shitty behavior, I tend to distance myself from them long before they get to the point of admitting rape or any other form of SA.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Exactly, that's why we have to end the punitive and carceral 'justice' system that doesn't work and move to a restorative and transformative justice system instead.

This would lead to less harm over time as it would not only remove the conditions that make people fear speaking out about their abuse, but also lead to teaching people not to abuse in the first place.

The reason why such things happen is because of abuse growing up and a lack of education on how to go about having good relationships with others, gender roles and toxic relationships with those who are supposed to care for us is a huge problem and the current system is incapable of dealing with, catching and changing these problems because they simply put do not wish the status quo to change, it benefits them.

If the power in society was not put with 'parents' and allowed communities to catch, educate and modify such behaviour and remove children from such situations over time it would lower such problems. The current system does not seek to deal with the root causes, it only punishes long after any such harm and bad lessons have been taught which clearly does not work.

That's why we need restorative and transformative justice to remove the core power dynamics in relationships and throughout society which lead to such things, it wouldn't be overnight, but then the current system clearly doesn't know how to nor does it wish to get rid of these things and so it isn't ever going to deal with them.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only proper way to deal with a rapist, is they must be removed from society, by any means necessary. Certain groups cannot be tolerated, no matter how forgiving a society.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You think rape is forgivable?

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think that's up to the victim/survivor.

I do not think that reducing it down to always throw the person out no matter what is a good solution. I think punishment to that degree should always be a last resort, and we should work on dealing with the systems that allow such things to happen and give such people therapy, and make sure the variables such as entitlement, the patriarchy, and abuse etc do not happen.

We should give people the emotional tools to deal with rejection and safe people/spaces they can go to without judgement if they have done things or want to do things so they can work through it.

At the same time I believe we should also give victims/survivors (or potential ones) more control and power in this system so they can fight such people off and not be punished for it.

My goal and desire is for a society where people are taught not to do such things in the first place and gave the ability to deal with no etc. However, in the mean time it's clear a transition is needed and punishing and locking people up clearly does not prevent it, so let's try something better which might have a chance of reducing and eventually eliminating such actions.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish you luck with that then. It's more likely for society to go in the direction of harsh punishments for lesser things instead.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago

Thank you. Yeah, it'll be a long road full of twists and turns, but we'll get there eventually.