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A reminder to not take online negativity too seriously (media.piefed.world)

submitted 2 days ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world to c/gaming@lemmy.world

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The paid trolls want people to feel defeatist and tired, that's the point.

This is from 2015 and it's the most bang for your buck warfare:

Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream -- people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. (This uses the same social media graph built before.) We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people (think nonsense reddit posts about conspiracies that sound like Markov chains of nonsense other people have said), or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).

The goal is to keep opinions we don't want fragmented and from coalescing in to a single voice for long enough that the memes we do want can, at which points they've gotten a head start on going viral and tend to capture a larger-than-otherwise share of media attention.

(All of the stuff above is basically the "standard" for online PR (usually farmed out to an LLC with a generic name working for the marketing firm contracted by the big firm; deniability is a word frequently said), once you're above a certain size.)

https://archive.is/PoUMo

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you have any other journalism or leaks from these influence operations?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure there are court cases against these companies that hired them, there are also more interviews of Russians on video saying this stuff. You should look into that.

I would recommend looking at the years 2016 through 2019 , plus Facebook, Cambridge Analytica, and other companies like that. Europe recently talked about going after a company doing this stuff.

Here's a good portion of my bookmark vault: https://sh.itjust.works/post/33277983

[–] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

What pisses me off is a lot of times these influence agents are not hard to spot but if they are with a powerful group they get a pass, and if you argue with them they will manipulate the rules or have your name sent to social media and they will ban you or violate you I should say for unrelated reasons. Especially about a certain country connected to our foreign policy but not just that and it's going to get worse.

Not only do they allow fake accounts to violate their own rules and manipulate us, but they dishonestly violate people that have not broken rules at the behest of those powerful interests. The government and billionaires have their hooks well into social media, it is doomed, and there is no way to achieve anything big through it with it being fucked as so.

[–] parip@lemmy.cif.su -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My heart goes out to everyone that was censored by a dogpile of reports.

Moderators can go fuck themselves, and moderation shouldn't be taken seriously at all.

They only have themselves and their abuse to blame.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

So, are you saying that the russians that are spreading propaganda shouldn't be downvoted? I'm having a hard time parsing what you're trying to say. Your comment history has a light trolling vibe to it.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Thanks.

[–] parip@lemmy.cif.su -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The goal is to keep opinions we don’t want fragmented and from coalescing in to a single voice for long enough that the memes we do want can, at which points they’ve gotten a head start on going viral and tend to capture a larger-than-otherwise share of media attention.

Interesting. There's definitely a concerted effort to censor information on the internet.

I don't think it's just Russians. I also believe a lot of useful idiots are perpetuating censorship because it's expected of them.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Censoring misinformation and russian propaganda from taking over is okay. Information warfare is brutal and the russians have been winning in way too many places lately. Same with the nazis/white nationalists. They should be shut down. There's a reason Germany has laws against being pro-nazi.