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I think talking as you have, you'll do fine. Like 1/8 posters are going to come at you, but you can just block them. You can slightly reduce that number by not making frivolous accusations of genocide (whatever might be said of other crimes)
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I don't feel like I'm being frivolous. I see the reports that russian people are taking Ukrainian children. I see the state TV in russia stating that Ukrainians are animals to be exterminated. I've spoken with Ukrainians who told me what russians did to their village and their friends.
Based on what I've seen, I think that russia is trying to commit genocide against Ukraine.
I'm not trying to convince people here of that. They've told me that they don't accept that stuff is happening, that they stand with russia against western aggression. Our sources of information state fundamentally opposite accounts of events.
I'm sure you do, but as far as I've ever seen this is a distortion of Russia evacuating children from warzones, typically ethnically Russian children from Donbas who had been separated from their parents by the war.
Could you show me an example of this where the person saying it can be reasonably understood as representing the Russian government? I suppose it'll result in a moot point because phrasing is very important here and specifically there is a difference between "all Ukrainians" being that versus "this group of people who are Ukrainians," such as the hardcore banderites. I don't really agree with exterminationist rhetoric, but if I had to choose who gets the business end, it should probably be fascists like the Azov battalion (and fuck the Wagner Nazis too, obviously)