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Leave it to bourgeois feminism to recognize a real and serious problem in today's system (the exploitation and deliberate oppression of women via unpaid labor to grow future workers to be exploited by capitalists for no cost to them), only for them to toss aside the class character of the problem and blame men.
No, it's definitely both. You're just not going to get an essay-length nuanced analysis out of a Tweet, so it's easy to give people the least charitable interpretation. It's unfair to reduce feminism and the larger points about divisions of labor to this one tweet, and then take the moral high ground. Twitter and Bluesky suck and have little redeeming value, but here is a chance to have more extended discussions without making snap judgments.
There's a portion of Marxist men, certainly not all of them, who partake in essentialism and are reluctant to take women seriously, along with other cultural issues. The class struggle is a venn diagram with the rights of people in marginalized groups. It's important, but it's not absolutely everything.
are you on our side or not? feminism should incorporate class analysis, but feminism cannot be reduced to class analysis, patriarchy will be a problem whether women are exploited by capitalism or some other economic system
I'm definitely on the side of marxist feminists (which is one of the bigger branches/theories in the feminist spaces), which is one of the major theories that is based on class analysis and one that recognizes how capitalism and patriarchy (which are not being conflated into one) are interconnected and support one another.
It's also opposed to bourgeois feminism, which might deliberately omit systemic causes behind oppression (see: the original post) and just aims to benefit women at the top while working class women get shafted.
Hope this answers what my stance is at least.
just a small tip, if you want to keep alliances with other feminists, criticizing them for targeting patriarchy and double standards between women and men as being "bourgeois" for not including class analysis is only going to alienate and work against the solidarity we need as a movement
I'm not sure everything you see as bourgeois feminism is as genuinely "bourgeois" or problematic as you think - it's not like the meme is perpetuating Sheryl Sandberg style thinking even if there is more that could be said about the situation.
Yeah, maybe you're right.
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Is it "bourgeois feminism," or just the inherent limitations of Twitter/Bluesky as a medium and its inability to provide extended context to thesis statements?
'Class' in the hierarchal marxist sense, while real and coloring just about every socially mediated thing, is not the only factpr or criteria.
If you have to pick only one to observe, or observe first, its a pretty good one. If you can only pick one, or make judgements on literally the first factor you observe, you are not a functional intelligence; just a better flavor of reactionary.