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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 108 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This tech scares the hell out of me.

Great if we can make MRI quality imaging eventually available, but being able to monitor where people are in their homes remotely and their health status in our world is fucking dangerous.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Real question: how do you stop this?

I don't use wifi at all in my home but I live in an apartment and all my neighbours obviously do.

How in the hell do I stop this from getting into my home?

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Own the network. Run OSS.

That's about it.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

"Howdy neighbour. Your wireless modem/router combo is mine now. Thxkbye"

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Wear an aluminum foil vest and a Faraday suit. Burn your computer after reading, I've said too much....

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your neighbors WIFI signals are too weak to matter in this case. Even if they were strong enough, this is a receiver-transmitter setup, so it would still be impossible to do unless you connect to their network. Even then, they’d have to assume you’re the only person present between the transmitter and the receiver.

Presence detection through WIFI was already garbage enough, this one is plain unusable.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good to know.

The stuff I've read about recently tracking movements using wifi - would this need more powerful radio waves than most people use or no?

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You need more power than what regular people use. You would need the signal to go through walls into your home, and then read whatever comes back out through the same walls, so it’s a lot more attenuation than you typically expect.

[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Put the house in a faraday cage?

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

With 6 ghz wifi you'd need a cage with a size of around 1mm irc.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Copper mesh fabric.

[–] 0x0 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Foil is cheap enough and a good isolator for plenty of things.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

So if you don't want someone to measure your heartbeat and to physically know where you are at all times your only option is to cover your entire living area, including the windows, in aluminum foil?

I guess what I'm getting at here is that this situation is deeply, deeply fucked.

[–] alecbowles@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

In a world where private health care is the norm, yes. It’s scary.

In a world where Public health care is the main provider of health it isn’t.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

oh yes it still is

[–] PlexSheep 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It has nothing to do with that. This is about privacy and data security.

[–] alecbowles@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

If we think about the applications of the technology to the benefit of someone’s health I think it’s really cool.

Needless to say it does pose a risk to our privacy and data security if used with an intention to monitor ones health without their consent.

[–] welfare_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] alecbowles@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

Edited for better comprehension. I didn’t have my coffee, sorry

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah I'm with you.

"Using this technological advancement to improve health care is good"

"Not in countries where health care is publicly run"

"What" is the correct response here.