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Even though federation has led to racists and/or NATO defenders showing up, I've also encountered a number if very cool people from other instances posting things like helpful advice on federation stuff, vivid descriptions of getting vored by a pack of anthro-hyenas, interesting insights and opinions on Star Trek lore, etc. I still haven't found much in the way of active hobby communities, but it's pretty cool to see more Star Trek and furry stuff in the timeline, and I feel it makes having to deal with the occasional deranged lib worth it.

Anyways, to all the genuinely cool people who wander into Hexbear threads, I'm very glad you've showed up to bless us with your wonderful posts and I hope you stick around.

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[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (41 children)

Despite probably being labeled a NATO sympathizer, I'm confused about your stance towards NATO and I wanted to ask a question:

Do you agree that Ukraine was invaded by russia, and that Ukraine has a right to defend itself? Are russia the bad guys in your general worldview?

NATO is a big part of the support for Ukraine, so I'd like to understand the people here and why NATO is disliked/hated.

Sorry if this comes across as trolling, I've found a lot of threads from CTH that I've enjoyed but I don't want to jump in without understanding things first.

[–] sicklemode@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (23 children)

I noticed you consistently capitalized Ukraine and consistently used lowercase for Russia here. This kind of stuff was started by the far-right reactionary regime in Ukraine to further dehumanize Russians by refusing to recognize them as a legitimate people. You would do well to abandon this trend and properly capitalize Russia, acknowledging that Russians are in-fact human. Some people are lazy in their typing, but this seems to be deliberate in this case.

Edit: Checking your post history, there's another instance of this from 7 days ago as of the time of this post. Russians are as human as anybody else, and shouldn't be demoted to sub-human levels by refusing to capitalize the words "Russia" and "Russians". Regardless of how you may personally feel about the Russian government's actions, it's not okay to deny recognizing an entire people's fundamental humanity.

Edit Edit: Checking your post history from other instances reveals far more instances of this, all consistent. Point stands.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (22 children)

This is true. I don't apologize for it (yet?), but I don't intend to deny their humanity and I'm kind of shaken that it's interpreted that way. Which is entirely on me, and I wanted to thank you for the shock because it's a blind spot I don't like to have. I obviously have some thinking to do.

Not capitalizing certain names is my personal choice to show that by their actions they no longer have my respect. For instance I do the same for the billionaires that are constantly in the news, and the ex president who has tried to steal the election.

My reasoning/feeling for applying it to russia is that their state TV shows constantly dehumanize Ukraine. Regardless of history and how the point was reached, russia invaded Ukraine and have stated clearly that they consider the state of Ukraine to simply not exist. Ukrainians have been tortured, raped, and systematically genocided by russia.

Respectfully, I understand that you or many here may not agree with those statements, but I'm not sure how to progress from there

[–] sicklemode@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

How about you watch this video about what's actually been going on in Ukraine, that Western media (including all their big tech proxies) has basically censored with a conspiracy of silence on reporting: Ukraine Targets Elon Musk, US Aid Dwindles, Ukraine's Offensive Increasingly Depleted

What ever lack of respect you have for Russia (or anybody, for that matter), you should take that up in the form of airing your grievances in a precise and targeted approach to what exactly you don't like about them or their actions. It is unnecessary to use lowercase when referring to a person or a people's proper identity, as it suggests they are of a lesser or illegitimate race/status. There's acceptable processes for showing you have a dispute with a person or entity (Russian government, for instance), and refusing to capitalize someone's name or race isn't one of them. You've been manipulated into a practice that is against people's fundamental right of having their humanity recognized.

You seriously have to ask yourself if this is worth it, continuing down this path. Do you really want to be remembered this way?

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