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Compromise left rather than rightward. If they could work with literal fascists, they could've seen what the KPD had to say. Also, not using the army to attack their supposed allies, or even agreeing to reinstate Eichhorn after the fact, would've averted this whole thing. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising#Background_and_causes.
Fuckin wonder why.
As you yourself admit, negotiations were had. They saw what the KPD had to say - and one of their core demands was to restore to power someone who had taken leftist politicians hostage for being insufficiently leftist.
Their supposed allies who were attempting a coup? This leads back around to the idea that the SPD should've rolled over and fucking died.
Because the navy was extremely left-wing at the time?
Not to be rude but like, was your major in alt history? You clearly need a heavy refresher on the German revolution before you're qualified to talk about this, so I'd suggest you start with that before responding. To be clear, I'll downvote and move on if your next response isn't at least mostly rooted in fact.
Nope. See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising#Background_and_causes
Eichhorn's "fault" in all this was not using the police to crack down on leftist allies with legitimate grievances. He was not at all involved in the hostage taking, which the navy men didn't do because the politician "wasn't sufficiently leftist;" as clearly stated in the article, it was a dispute over back pay.
No "coup" ("revolution" makes a lot more sense as a label) yet. The army thing is referring to this:
Eichhorn would be subsequently dismissed, not for anything you stated but because he wouldn't "reliably" immediately resort to deadly force against fellow leftists. This would be the immediately spark of the uprising.
Because the people Ebert called the army on were the navy servicemen. They knew firsthand how ghoulish that asshole really was.
Sorry that you don't like your own source being quoted to contradict you?
Yep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Wels
"It's a revolution because I like this attempt to prevent democratic elections"
As mentioned and quoted above, it's not "a dispute over backpay"
"It's okay if a police chief approves of military forces taking politicians hostages if I really agree with them"
"Ghoulish is when the civilian government doesn't allow the military to make its own orders and take hostages whenever it likes"
If you think my position is unnecessarily prejudiced against the uprising and not worth responding to, that's fine. But I think you're really downplaying the connection between the Bolsheviks and the thinking of the leadership of the Spartacist Uprising.