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[–] ArnaulttheGrim@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Call me when they start bringing in legitimacy between understanding how the brain actually functions and relate it to how computation systems actually work.

The current models STRUGGLE with basic speech comprehension that humans are able to nail with significantly higher precision (Just look at LLMs that struggle with dialects between large regions like the US). Use a slang word in a modern search, or use a common definition vs the literal, AI stumbles and fails frequently. Having worked on models as someone whose job was in AI, the algorithms STRUGGLE even understanding basic concepts such as 'Yes' and 'Yeah' being interchangeable without dedicated training. There is a reason that it used to be countless humans sitting in a room teaching a machine how to do something with basic boolean values.

Current Automated Intelligence (I refuse to call it Narrow AI as it diminishes the term AI) will simply be the way of things for a long time until these companies can build trust in them and are able to actually roll out reliable items that: 1) Dont make up data. 2) Can verify data on its own. 3) Can actually understand and infer things based on when people type/say something.

True AI or what they are calling AGI nowadays is a pipe dream similar to what 3D/Augmented Reality/Holographic concepts are. There will be spikes of innovation followed by periods of stagnation. The only difference is that right now current AI models are useful in the corporate world which will lead to shorter periods of stagnation comparably.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying it will be good, but it will be pushed as the next big thing and it will work enough to get people who are already locked into their ChatGTP waifu fantasies or using the thing to supplant their missing social lives in some way to jump over to it, bugs and all. Which is still millions of people.

I think actual AGI is years and years away, but the things the major companies will release in the near future will "simulate" general intelligence in a few clever ways, and as we've seen, the public doesn't have the attention span to care about the nuance, they just want something that makes them feel special.

[–] ArnaulttheGrim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Your statement made me chuckle because I agree about the social fantasies the current models have allowed folks to live.

I think where I simply dissent is, do I believe corporations are evil and greedy enough to try something like this? Yes, I do. Hell Apple is the epitome of this with all the hoops you have to jump through and any non-basic-tech-literate person would not pursue/approach. However, that is the problem, users wont want to not have their favorite app that their friend also has simply because of their device/provider/overlord.

Because we are simply debating on an internet forum, Im gonna take my personal belief and assert it here (/s). Looking at the fact that Microsoft backed off the console war, my greater concern is not a 'gotcha' that companies like Google and such will apply, its the concept that we are quickly running into fewer and fewer alternatives so its going to be a 'lesser of evils' choice.

Apple showed the way, other companies have been struggling to figure out how they are going to match that. The one foil to this thought/approach is that like the op of this thread stated, an as I infer, users will gravitate away from being locked in.

Or hopefully we both wind up with wrong conjectures and find that the market goes in a different direction, but I admit myself that is kind of wishful thinking.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are a lot of things I hope I'm wrong about, but I have seen over and over as far back as the earliest days on the internet, companies like AOL have given users the illusion of choice, the feeling that they have control over what they're looking at and "installing" and that effect has been played with back and forth, from apple giving users a lot of control while also outsourcing app development to third parties to platforms like Steam who have remained stalwart allies to consumers. But even those spaces are somewhat gated and those gates got taller and taller as time went, and I think a lot of platforms would be very happy if they had absolute control over the content users have access to, and have tried to exert this control in many ways.

We wouldn't have so many legal challenges and issues around monopolization, right to jailbreak, etc. if this wasn't still a burning problem, so I don't expect AI is going to be much different, especially since it's so abstract and "weird" and not even programmed but almost shaped and grown and can still barely interact with computer apps outside of itself.

I guess time will tell if we get a whole a generation of people locked into corporate matrix worlds where they know the steak isn't real but love it anyway, or if people find ways to train their anime catgirl companions to download, interact with or even simulate 3rd party apps and custom content and they actually become the tools we hope which help us, not just feed us advertisements.