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As a 160cm guy, s sized shirt for guy is so baggy for me but s sized shirt for woman is just right. And buying s sized made in country A is different size than s sized made in country B.
What is this inconsistent shite
Those differences actually make sense to me. If you try to sell pants with the same length inseam in Honduras and the Netherlands, you’ll either prop up the local tailoring industry or fail. Those at least have an inseam measurement, but a medium shirt is going to have to be made for different proportions as well.
I think men’s and women’s sizes could be adapted to be more focused on body shape and less on gender, but I get where they’re coming from. Women are on average smaller than men, so a women’s medium will similarly be smaller than a men’s medium.
They could just use measurements. Even with elastic materials just give a range. Remembering a few numbers is not difficult for most people
Yes, though you would have to remember more numbers if you’re not making gendered sizes, things like the diameter of the arm hole and the distance between the neck and shoulder, but it’s not like there’s no way to do it. It’s just easier for clothing companies to gender clothes and most people don’t care enough to do anything about it.
People’s clothes would probably fit a lot better though.
You only need a few numbers really, and a small table printed on the label would be easy enough. At the end of the day a company is going to produce a limited number of patterns. Probably still only going to get xs/s/m/l/xl/xx... So roughly 7 patterns. In any case, having the numbers can tell you whether a m or a s will be choking you or a comfortable fit, whether it will constrict your arm motion, or be an unintentional crop top. It just demands more quality control from the manufacturer and honest labeling which is antithetical to their interests (getting people into the store, errant purchases, etc...)
Yeah but, shoe industry at least have the consistent going on...sort of.
As someone from south east asia, my size is like below average even for asian standard, which mean i can't expect to buy cloth and fit if i visit europe or US. Cloth from Uniqlo kinda fit me tho but i guess their shirt might be unisex.
Yeah, that’s got to be difficult. I’m in the opposite boat, as a 178 cm tall woman. I struggled finding dresses that were long enough in the US, but upon moving to central Europe, I have no issues at all (and my size shoe doesn’t run out within a day of being restocked anymore). I basically just don’t buy clothing made by Asian companies unless I can try it on in person first. People joke about “big bones,” but I’ve got a BMI of 20 and I have tried on XL and XXL sizes that don’t go over my shoulders.
I don't remember ever buying cloth/shoe i can't try first, because i need to know how loose it gonna be 🤣
Yeah, there’s also unfortunately a difference in how a man wearing clothes that are too big vs a woman wearing clothes that are too small or too big is received. It was only a real problem for me with professional clothing, because otherwise I can get away with a dress unintentionally falling mid-thigh or sizing up and looking like I’m doing a menswear style.