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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Oliver Habryka truly understands the soul of SneerClub (www.lesswrong.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by dgerard@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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this is Habryka talking about how his moderating skills are so powerful it takes lesswrong three fucking years to block a poster who's actively being a drain on the site

here's his reaction to sneerclub (specifically me - thanks Oliver!) calling LessOnline "wordy racist fest":

A culture of loose status-focused social connection. Fellow sneerers are not trying to build anything together. They are not relying on each other for trade, coordination or anything else. They don't need to develop protocols of communication that produce functional outcomes, they just need to have fun sneering together.

He gets us! He really gets us!

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

lobste.rs just banned an 11 year old account with almost 5,000 comments and 45k karma for being a transphobic jerk. No muss, no fuss, no apologetic blogpost where the user could defend themselves and rile up the masses.

That's how you do it, people.

edit I have now skimmed the comments where banned use Said can explain himself, and he's using his last efforts to nobly defend himself, thanking his admirers, and generally projecting an image of a man wrongly accused.

j/k he's doubling down on being a dick.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 2 points 2 weeks ago

An update, a Concerned Citizen furrows their brow and Has Questions on how this was handled, about a week later

https://lobste.rs/s/zoirhl/appealing_ban_user_friendlysock

A predictable shitshow erupts, which leads to the creator of Anubis quitting the site, along with a few others.

At least I get more entries in my "lobste.rs assholes" list.

Worth noting is this text from the mod (https://lobste.rs/s/zoirhl/appealing_ban_user_friendlysock#c_6prapm)

This pattern was that every couple years there’d be a long string of cruel, dismissive, or discouraging comments. Not necessarily wrong, not outright abusive, not spam, not any one over the line, but all of them… just endless “ugh, this guy again?” and other users, more or less quietly, leaving rather than deal with it. This final comment called out in the modlog is one more example. The entire goal of the rhetoric is that it’s not explicit, it’s not outright libelous, it doesn’t even take personal responsibility for holding the opinion of the smear it insinuates. It’s deniable out of context, whether the missing context is the author’s writing history or the missing context is the old bigotry that trans people are pedophiles.

I’m not missing that context. The only thing I’m missing is the charity to think that somehow this time it’s different, that after a decade, this time it will the last time would be the last time I have to explain that this is a community where everybody’s going to be treated with some basic dignity. The other mods suggested the idea of a public apology but that didn’t work out, and absent a persuasive reason to expect this pattern wouldn’t continue, this ban stands.

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