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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Sometimes, I feel regret that Romney didn't beat Obama. Not because Romney would have been a better president. Just because of the timing, if Romney had won, then maybe Trump would never have become president, or at least he'd have been president later. Romney's still a Republican, so it would have sucked, but Trump is fucking poison.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago

Typical liberal thinking. Trump is just byproduct of neoliberal, genocidal war mongering state of america. If not Trump, someone else wouldve come. You should be glad he didnt came sooner and I am sure far far worse times are yet to come.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's an interesting thought... I can't help but feel like it would have just delayed an inevitable outcome though, potentially allowing the underlying political movement even more time to grow and fester. It's unknowable, but I feel like we'll be pondering questions like that for a long time.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It seems like logically, we should feel lucky to have such an incompetent campy comic book villain con man as the face of their ridiculous movement. But it doesn't feel like that at the time.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

I would feel "lucky" if the dipship's popularity dropped to less than 10% support by the end of 2020 and never shown his face in public ever since. But now, this is a nightmare.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Now imagine how different our country would be if Gore won...

With all the nonsense about "fiscal conservatives", people forget that the last administration to balance the budget was Clinton/Gore - and not only was the budget balanced, it actually had a fucking surplus. One of the big debate points going into the 2000 election cycle was what to do with this surplus. Naturally enough the surplus went towards tax cuts for the rich and now we're fucking $35 trillion dollars in debt.

Someone will weigh in here with "deficits don't matter" and "the government can just print money if it needs it".

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I almost edited to "if Gore was allowed to win"

I’ve always said this was the start of our descend into the hellscape that we’re currently stewing in. Having Gore's president, would have gotten strong internet/telecoms and environmental guardrails/legislation passed. At a time when we really needed to start addressing those things. Amongst many other things..

5 SCOTUS fucktards are responsible for where we are today. that’s my take at least.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

Because much of what's happening right now is a direct, racist reaction to the US having the gall to elect a black man president.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think a McCain victory would have been the best shot at averting the Trump wing. The Tea Party was the first manifestation of what we see now, and that was triggered by Obama's first term.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But that could have gotten us President Palin.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I somehow mashed to forget her for a second..

He probably would have made it up to the full 8 years, since he did in our timeline. I doubt Palin would have won a race.