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I believe the fight is over who gets to control how the question is worded, because the question can only be asked once in a referendum.
If it's the UCP or one of their crony entities that get to control it, they will attempt to have the question be like: "Do you believe in Alberta being a separate country and if not do you not believe in Alberta as a Province in the country of Canada?" Yes or No. Which will lead to everyone scratching their heads, because both are basically saying the same thing. Much like their policy surveys, where no matter what you answer, it leads to a predetermined conclusion. It's basically the hallmark of the traitorous and christofacist UCP at this point. They hate us, and simply want to legitimize their prosecution of us and have total control over our resources, which are significant. It'll also quickly fall under American control.
If this Canada first group controls the question, it'll be something like: "Do you think Alberta should separate from Canada," and I mean that's a predetermined conclusion too, because it's believed that less than 20% of citizens actually want to leave. And even if they didn't want to stay, at least it's an honest question that won't be tricking people.
So I mean act according to your wishes. We only get one shot at defending this though.
The question from the petition that the Alberta Prosperity Project is proposing is "Do you agree that the Province of Alberta shall become a sovereign country and cease to be a province in Canada?" which is currently being held up in the courts, while the Forever Canadian's currently ongoing petition is "Do you agree that Alberta should remain in Canada?"
There is currently no ongoing petition where signing it indicates a desire for Alberta to leave Canada.
But both are asking to sign a petition to call for a referendum on separation, and fighting for how the question is asked right? So if either were to get enough signatures, the fundamental result is the same, there's a referendum.
Signing the stay petition is still a signature that goes toward calling a referendum, correct?
https://www.alberta.ca/system/files/custom_downloaded_images/jsg-citizen-initiative-act-fact-sheet.pdf
It can, but maybe not. Unless I'm reading it wrong, a referendum vote isn't actually needed.
Though if I am reading it right, it seems like a "heads I win, tails you lose" sort of scenario.
If the "leave" petition passes, it seems like they could just state "Yep that's what Alberta wants now, no vote needed."
I doubt that a "stay" petition would get such a benefit of the doubt.
Is that how it works? I'm under the impression any petition at this point is solely to get it put on the ballot. If no one signs, it doesn't go on the ballot, and there's no separation vote on the referendum ballot.
So it sounds like this passing doesn't necessarily lead to a referendum. Which, again, leads to the "heads I win tails you lose" scenario.
I'm not an expert here, so if I'm wrong on this and if someone is actually an expert, hopefully they could weigh in to correct my interpretation.
But my understanding of it is this:
I think it would be pretty much directly stated that if you got something like 70 or 80% of Albertans to sign onto this petition, like at that point the chief electoral officer could reliably question do we even need to have a referendum then? If the signatories were vetted and it could be proven they represented a huge percentage of the electorate, it states the obvious.
That will never realistically happen though. But what could (and will) happen is basically this turns into a challenge over who gets to raise the need of a referendum and the framing of the question. It was originally going to that sovereignty group, but now this Canada First group has mounted a court challenge to hopefully basically overcome them, and be the ones to control the framing of the question.