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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Tbh, as a dev knowledge of transistors is about as essential as knowledge about screws for a car driver.

It's common knowledge and in general maybe a little shameful to not know, but it's really not in any way relevant for the task at hand.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe for dev knowledge, but computer science? The science of computers?

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Is that not the difference between a computer science and a computer engineering degree?

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Well, computer science is not the science of computers, is it? It's about using computers (in the sense of programming them), not about making computers. Making computers is electrical engineering.

We all know how great we IT people are at naming things ;)

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

My BS in CS took its roots down to CMOS composition of logic gates and basic EE, on the hardware side, and down to deriving numbers and arithmetic from Boolean logic / predicate calculus, on the philosophy side. Then tied those up together through the theoretical underpinnings of computation and problem solving, like a trunk, and branched back out into the various mainstream technologies that derived from all that. It obviously all depends on the program at the school of choice, I suppose, and I'm sure it's evolved over the years, but it still seems important to have at least some courses that pull back the wizard's curtain to ensure their students really see how it's all just an increasingly elaborate, high-tech version of conceptually simple (in function) machinery carrying out fundamental building blocks of logic.

Anyway, I'm going to go sniff my own cinnamon roll scented farts while gazing in the mirror, now.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

We did the same thing, going so far as to "build" a simple imaginary CPU. It was interesting but ultimately dead knowledge.

I built an emulator for that CPU, which the university course took over and used for a few years for the course. But after that I never did anything with logic gates or anything like that.

I got into DIY electronics lateron as a hobby, but even then I never used logic gates and instead just slapped a cheap microcontroller on to handle all my logic needs.

I do use transistors sometimes e.g. for amplification, but we didn't learn anything about that in university.

In the end it feels like learning how to theoretically mine sand when studying to become an architect. Interesting, but also ultimately pointless.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Informatics is a much better name imo

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I see there's a fellow German speaker ;)

I do agree though!

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If you want someone to know about the physical properties of transistors, find an electrical engineer.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

Ok, but he didn't know what a transistor is. Like I get not knowing the mechanics or chemistry of it, but to literally not know it or how it applies to a computer boggles my mind.