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[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Paywalled. Is this supposed to be better than your YouTube research?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, in the original comment above I had the direct link to the archive, forgot to repeat it in the last comment.

[–] UsernameHere@lemy.lol 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I wasted my time reading the opinion piece. It was worse than I expected:

Some parents say they’re inspired by social-media stars: A handful of doctors who are raising their own carnivore babies have YouTube channels with hundreds of thousands and even millions of subscribers. Rising interest in protein and concerns about ultraprocessed foods are causing some people to look at carnivore-style diets. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a carnivore champion, has loudly expressed his affinity for beef tallow. 

The reason science is based on consensus is because anyone can be tempted to use their title as doctor or scientist or whatever to make money by lying and selling snake oil. For example, the “handful of doctors” mentioned above trying to make money from their YouTube channels.

If what they were saying was true the entire medical community would be saying it. Not just a handful of YouTube influencers.

We’ve seen this same scenario with vaccine deniers like your buddy RFK mentioned above.

Some pediatricians are very concerned. Small children need vitamin C, which is involved in the healthy development of cartilage and connective tissue, and fiber, which is important for digestion and the functioning of the gut microbiome, said Mark Corkins, a pediatric gastroenterologist at the University of Tennessee and chairman of the American Academy of Pediatrics’ committee on nutrition. Neither are prevalent in meat-heavy diets. 

As I said. The doctors that are doing their jobs as doctors and not as YouTube influencers or selling snake oil are concerned because they are basing their decision on peer reviewed research that has established a consensus with the whole science community world wide.

This part was good:

Carnivore babies tend to have carnivore moms. Lorraine Bonkowski was trying to get pregnant when she stumbled upon YouTube videos from doctors promoting meat-based diets for fertility. 

As a registered dietitian herself, she was initially skeptical. “I said, that’s crazy,” said Bonkowski, a 36-year-old from Howell, Mich. Then she became obsessed, watching hours of videos a day and devouring comments from women who said eating only animal foods helped them conceive. 

She went mostly carnivore about 2½ years ago. Bonkowski didn’t become pregnant, but she and her husband now have a 1-year-old daughter, Isabella, who they adopted as a newborn.  

Isabella is on a carnivore-stye diet, too. “If it makes sense for adults, why wouldn’t it make sense for kids?” said Bonkowski, who is now a stay-at-home mom.

  1. She finds YouTube videos about meat based diets for fertility.

  2. She agrees that it is crazy based off her knowledge as a dietician.

  3. She tries the diet and it didn’t work.

  4. She feeds her adopted newborn based on the diet that didn’t work.

This shows the lack of critical thinking skills this person has. She even says, “If it makes sense for adults, why wouldn’t it make sense for kids?” oblivious to the fact that it didn’t work for her fertility issues like the YouTube videos said.

Bonkowski did start giving Isabella some fruit a few months ago; the baby occasionally became constipated on the animal-only diet.

The diet didn’t even work for the baby…

Meat is a good food for babies and toddlers because it provides essential nutrients like iron, zinc and protein, said Steven Abrams, a professor of pediatrics at the Dell Medical School at the University of Texas at Austin. The forms of protein and iron in meat are easily used by the body. 

Protein and iron are in plants also… and in this context “protein and iron in meat are easily used by the body” is a bad thing. Fiber is a macronutrient only available in plants and it’s primary role is to slow the movement of food in our digestive tracks by making it not easily used by the body.

This is why eating animal products causes type 2 diabetes and is the #1 cause of colon cancer. Animal cells break down too fast in our digestive track.

It then goes on to talk about the handful of doctors supporting these diets and of course they are also selling products to profit off of saying something other than the scientific community.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -1 points 2 hours ago

Thank you for reading the publication that this whole post has been about.

The reason science is based on consensus is because anyone can be tempted to use their title as doctor or scientist or whatever to make money by lying and selling snake oil. For example, the “handful of doctors” mentioned above trying to make money from their YouTube channels.

Doctors have far better ways to make money then by running youtube channels where they don't sell anything.

If what they were saying was true the entire medical community would be saying it. Not just a handful of YouTube influencers.

Change has to start somewhere.

  1. She finds YouTube videos about meat based diets for fertility.
  2. She agrees that it is crazy based off her knowledge as a dietician.
  3. She tries the diet and it didn’t work.
  4. She feeds her adopted newborn based on the diet that didn’t work.

This shows the lack of critical thinking skills this person has. She even says, “If it makes sense for adults, why wouldn’t it make sense for kids?” oblivious to the fact that it didn’t work for her fertility issues like the YouTube videos said.

Living 36 years in one metabolic mode and trying to reverse it in 1 year may have good results, but by her own admission she only went "mostly", her core dysfunction isn't disclosed.

Bonkowski did start giving Isabella some fruit a few months ago; the baby occasionally became constipated on the animal-only diet.

The diet didn’t even work for the baby…

Yeah, weird she is giving cheese to a baby.

Fiber is a macronutrient only available in plants and it’s primary role is to slow the movement of food in our digestive tracks by making it not easily used by the body.

Is that a good thing?

This is why eating animal products causes type 2 diabetes and is the #1 cause of colon cancer. Animal cells break down too fast in our digestive track.

Carbohydrates are a necessary, but not sufficient, component of T2D. I haven't seen any documentation of a carnivore developing T2D. This makes mechanistic sense since there are no carbohydrates in a carnivore diet.

There have only been weak epidemiological associations demonstrated with processed meat and some types of colon cancer, how do you arrive at the #1 ranking?

There is considerable debate ongoing in the colon cancer arena - https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/red-meat#cancer

It then goes on to talk about the handful of doctors supporting these diets and of course they are also selling products to profit off of saying something other than the scientific community

Carnivore Bars is just pemmican, and they are way too expensive for any reasonable person to buy anyway. As far as I'm aware they are not sold by a doctor of any description.