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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 81 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

Ah, I have a modest proposal. Let's count 60% of maternal deaths from black women. /s

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 29 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

I might be wrong, Frank, but my reading of the text says that freed slaves fall under “the whole Number of free Persons” and thus count as 1, not three fifths.

The three fifths compromise just said slave states shouldn’t get to count slave population to get more representatives. The non-slave states wanted them not to count at all, since they don’t get representation regardless. It’s wild to me that we think of the “three fifths of all other persons” thing as the bad part, rather than the “rich assholes who owned people got more representation than those who didn’t own people because the people they owned counted toward their representative allotments.” After all, the slave owners wanted slaves to count as a full person. The problem, as always, was slavery.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 15 hours ago

I read this in Dennis’s voice

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think it’s that “three fifths” is the only bad part per se, it just gets referenced a lot because it is a really indefensible example of how enslaved people were considered less than a person. So much so that here it is codified as a fraction of a person. Very in your face sort of language.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 16 hours ago

I think although very vivid language it is quite defensible for the reasons Kuni mentioned: in the only context where slaves were actually defined as 3/5 of a person, all they could do was allow their masters to extract extra value through representation from them, as they did not get representation for being counted towards House representation.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago

A government can't possibly serve the whole population. /s

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 9 points 19 hours ago

We'll call it the...60% Compromise. Got a nice ring to it.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

With gerrymandering that number is often much lower these days. We’ve ended up with even worse than the 3/5