such a funny time for this discourse again ☕
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I don't believe in the horse shoe theory except when it comes to gun owners larping about rising up against the government.
Rising up against the government is a LARPy roleplay fantasy by people who don't have community or culture.
However, making your insane, fascist government think twice before knocking down random doors in random neighborhoods lest they face a hail of gunfire, that is almost a necessity right now.
This country has too much wealth and resources that a lot of people would love to control, Trump is just the first to succeed at getting into the vault, but there have been many, many others who would have taken the US by force from within given the means.
Yes, better social policies and better international relations would have done a better job mitigating that, but we didn't get that, so here we are. Huddled behind our weapons and hoping they scare the monsters enough that they leave us alone.
First of all the, majority of gun owners fully support the fascist regime. So you will be fighting them and the military.
Second of all, you would be fighting against the government. Spy drones, tanks, missiles, etc. You will be killed and you won't have a fighting chance. There is no escape.
Guns have already destroyed our society from within. Tens of millions of people live in fear of gun violence. Millions of partners can't leave their relationships because they fear death. Tens of thousands of people are raped at gun point every year.
The amount of human suffering is staggering.
I guess? Mutually assured destruction is a form of brinkmanship that I'm not sure if I'm comfortable attempting. I won't judge you for how you choose to defend yourself against this administration but I will say that guns rarely deescalate a situation. I truly hope that ICE or the FBI or whoever actually do back down from more violent actions if they fear for their lives, but I feel like it's more likely that they will simply engage in greater shows of force. Maybe that will wake more people up to what they're doing.
In life, you're right. And I am speaking as a former self-defense teacher. I really believe the average person should not be carrying guns. Home defense, sure, but they're NOT an answer to 99% of potential daily problems with others and just make everyone crazier.
That said, political defense is a different ball-game. You need force behind your politics when your enemy is also putting force behind their politics. This applies to everything from international relations between allies and enemies to domestic movements. This is why Trump has so much political capital, not only does he have a raving cult behind him, they're literally armed lunatics. It may seem unstable and it is, but it IS power. It's why he managed to carve such a deep swath through the GOP, that kind of assured power is intoxicating to people.
I guarantee you if the left were more willing to take up responsible gun ownership broadly, we would have both more cards in the political game, AND we would have greater influence over the gun laws our country desperately needs. (Gun lobbies listen to gun buyers, not the people trying to put them out of business.)