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People prefer to suppress different perspectives rather then engaging - especially on social media (hackertalks.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by jet@hackertalks.com to c/actual_discussion@lemmy.ca

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There is a book called “On Being Certain”, by Robert A Burton who’s a neurologist, discussing how we know what we know. He postulates that the sense of “conviction” has less to do with objective reality and far more to do with “a feeling of knowing.” He also suggests that we are far less self-aware than we think we are.

People see a different viewpoint and their body reactively brings up all the conditioning received from popular advice. Instinctively, they hit the downvote button, thinking that they are rightfully decreasing the noise of a dangerous idea and protecting the less aware.

Most people aren’t interested in debate nor challenging the reality they find themselves in, or even the framing and interpretation of that reality.

Is lemmy supposed to be better then other social media?

How do we make lemmy a more thoughtful place? Or how do we create meaningful spaces on lemmy for thoughtful discussion of opposing views?

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[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Its always really interesting how people say this and can list examples of the negatives but never bring up examples of the positives because they know that people will start arguing over wether or not they are really positive. Or if you really need generative AI to accomplish the goal they are using it for.

Also not let's not ignore that gen AI is reversing the little climate progress we have made in the last few years. Let's also not ignore that it has caused multiple people to undergo psychosis. Multiple people have killed themselves after being encouraged to do so by AI. The world has been made actively worse by the advent of wide spread gen AI that is being subsidized by the public who has no say in the matter.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

That's all fair points, I like the one about "why can't you do it without AI?!" Maybe I can but it's easier with?

Where do you get the "ai has reversed the little climate progress we have made"? If you have a link I'd be very interested because the energy consumption of (generative) AI seems to be all over the place and no one really knows for sure.

But a little critic ; when I was a kid, heavy metal "killed". Should we stop all medications because sometimes they kill (they do)? What about knives, cars and alcohol (and for the USA, guns :-)?

Everything is good and bad, well there are very few exceptions.