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[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Whenever you see a linux phone advertise both security and android app support, you should be wary, since it's likely waydroid or a waydroid fork, and their design goal of running android in a container instead of a VM has lead to some interesting security decisions.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I would be very happy if anyone could explain to me in a simple and coherent way why I, as a normal user who am aware of what I am doing on my device and am not targeted by any group that's out to get me, would need a "hardened malloc", "secure app spawning", "vanadium browser and webview", or a "hardened PDF viewer". The last of these four is the only thing that means anything to me, and it sounds dumb. Yeah, I know PDFs can be dangerous if you open random shit, but come on.

If I run Waydroid it's only to get my banking app (trusted source) and Whatsapp (not a trusted source but not directly malware either) working. I hardly need their hardened PDF reader.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Not just your two android apps, any program on your system that is aware of your waydroid installation could potentially use it as a path to escalate themselves to root, which is generally regarded as a bad outcome. If you don't care about that kind of thing, or don't think that could ever happen to you, that's certainly within your rights to hold such a viewpoint.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Interesting. Thanks for sharing!

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Still using Android 11? Holy hell.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago

You realize how many things have gotten shittier since android 11? Accubattery isn't even allowed to monitor everything using up juice any more. You can't customize your own charging curves, you're locked out of accessing portions of your storage on your own phone, and a lot of great power user apks had to completely hit themselves or just stop working all together.

What do you need from after 11 that an apk wouldn't have allowed you to do already?