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There is a book called “On Being Certain”, by Robert A Burton who’s a neurologist, discussing how we know what we know. He postulates that the sense of “conviction” has less to do with objective reality and far more to do with “a feeling of knowing.” He also suggests that we are far less self-aware than we think we are.

People see a different viewpoint and their body reactively brings up all the conditioning received from popular advice. Instinctively, they hit the downvote button, thinking that they are rightfully decreasing the noise of a dangerous idea and protecting the less aware.

Most people aren’t interested in debate nor challenging the reality they find themselves in, or even the framing and interpretation of that reality.

Is lemmy supposed to be better then other social media?

How do we make lemmy a more thoughtful place? Or how do we create meaningful spaces on lemmy for thoughtful discussion of opposing views?

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I always hesitate to downvote and have only blocked a small handful of users. Even among the users I've blocked the majority are people whose porn I don't wish to see.

Just because I don't like someone's opinion or attitude about a given subject, I don't feel it's right to throw them away. Even if they're being relatively vile, they may just be having a bad day.

Also, I almost always expand downvoted comments. To me that's a sign saying there may be something interesting there, and there often is. Lemmy isn't as hive-minded as reddit was/is, but there's definitely groupthink and while I know that's human nature, it still bothers me a bit.