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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 19 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I'll stop faster because I'm towing a trailer.

My idiot FIL, a chronic tailgater, the last ever time I opted to be a passenger.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 25 minutes ago

I could see where, if the trailer has good brakes and a relatively light load, it could provide additional stopping power.

That's usually not going to be the case though.

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 6 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

If the trailer has very good brakes set to full power even when nearly empty, it's actually true, but I doubt that's the case…

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

In that exact case yes, but I like to operate on the assumption that my trailer brakes are permanently broken. I've had them fail to operate mid-trip because they're fucking trailer brakes.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I actually asked him that at the time

Oh, is it a braked trailer?

No.

[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 40 minutes ago

Glad you're alive then.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I am pretty sure physics says "no":

Ff <= µ*Fn

  • Fn is proportional to the mass of the trailer, so it is irrelevant for the deceleration (a) if it is empty or not (because Ff = m*a).
  • µ is a constant relying on the tire/ground connection. Comparable to the towing car (if you happen to have car tire quality ones on your trailer, which might be doubtful)
    .

On top of that, typical car trailers use overrun brakes that per definition work by exerting an additional force on the towing vehicle in the direction of movement that is then used to activate the trailer brake.

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough, car trailers do have garbage braking most of the time anyway. I may be biased because locomotives are so heavy and the traction you get with steel is shit so they actually benefit from some load behind…

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Locomotives? What is your profession?
In any case, I seriously hope that you are not tailgaiting ;-)

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Freight train driver. I don't tailgate, I like to leave plenty of distance in front of my car.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 17 hours ago

I meant tailgaiting with your train ;-)
(but yes, I am aware of the systems that prevent that, heard some interesting talks about the topic and seen demonstrations in our local railway museum)

[–] Norodix@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

That is an oversimplified friction model that does not apply well to emergency braking. I still don't think you get a better braking distance with a trailer in a typical situation but thats not the reason why.