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[–] RidgeDweller@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe implement a voluntary gun buyback program and tighten up gun laws like Australia? Might not have prevented this case, but it's better than the old "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" approach.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Gun buybacks don't work.

https://journalistsresource.org/health/gun-buybacks-what-the-research-says/

Why? The prices offered are generally so low all they attract are ancient, unused firearms.

If you look at Australia's plan, they made most guns illegal and requested they be turned in which still only removed some 20% of available guns from the market, some 650,000 guns.

https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/1996-national-firearms-agreement.html

To get a similar result, the US would need to run the program with the same level of effectiveness 123 times.

Even then, 20% of Americas 400 million guns would be 80 million, we don't have the logistics to collect and dispose of 80 million ANYTHING, much less guns.

Removing 20% of Americas guns would still leave 320 million guns out there. America is not Australia.

[–] RidgeDweller@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for the info. I know we're in a league of our own, but the numbers are interesting and sobering.

Maybe we should consider going in the opposite direction? Require gun safety and firearms training in elementary, middle, and high school; implement first time gun buyer programs for qualifying low income Americans; ban all concealed carry permits; allow firearms in your carry-on at the airport.

I'm being facetious, but California's Mulford Act shows Republicans can pass gun control laws if they're terrified that their outgroups are also armed. Though I'm sure a similar law today would be entirely partisan and only apply to their opposition or something. As a sidenote, I do think everyone should have at least a basic education in gun safety.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'd love to see training programs, not just on safety but basic maintenance, cleaning, field stripping, that sort of thing.

There are millions of guns that simply are not safe to use and their owners have NO CLUE.

I admit, I was one of them. When my father and grandfather passed away, I inherited their guns. I took my grandfathers deer rifle to a local armorer to get it checked out because I wasn't qualified to do it.

Turned out, that particular make and model (Remington 721) had a known problem with the trigger that could cause it to misfire without touching the trigger.

https://youtu.be/NlzoMqtDUxs#t=3m57s

They cleaned it up and replaced the trigger mechanism, should be good for another 70 years.