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[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The shooter was trans, and some media + lots of online spaces are already spreading mental illness narratives. Wouldn't be surprised if this is going to get used against trans people in general, it's sad.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I didn't think that's confirmed. The shooter had long hair and was named "Robin," which is a very gender-neutral name. Do you have a source confirming they were trans?

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

From the article:

Local news, Kare 11, confirmed the shooter’s name was Robin Westman, 23. Westman grew up in Richfield, and Westman’s mother worked at Annunciation school in some capacity. Westman applied in Dakota county to change their birth name from Robert to Robin because they identified as a woman, according to court documents obtained by the Guardian. That request was granted in January 2020.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Thanks. I didn't see that in the article originally, though I may have just missed it. It's also possible the article was updated.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-catholic-school-shooting-rcna227591

"FBI Director Kash Patel said the shooter was “a male” born under a different first name.

The suspect's parent had filed for a legal name change to "Robin M Westman" in Dakota County in November 2019. The application was granted in January 2020, when Westman was 17, after a hearing."

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I would still say that means nothing, people sometimes don't vibe with their names. Hell my great grandfather vibed with his nickname so much that I legit thought his name was Stew, it was not Stew his first name was Willard. I can change my last name no questions asked but as soon as someone changes their first name that's when it's weird.

That's not even getting into pseudonyms, I've been calling myself Vault online for years and I introduce myself as Beowulf to people I don't want knowing my actual name.

[–] loudwhisper 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In the video scheduled to be posted on YouTube apparently there were more elements (talked about their own dressing style and not feeling either a man or a woman - according to some articles which translated the pages in russian).

I think this is overall irrelevant anyway. In their manifesto they go all over the place ideologically, from holocaust praise to trans rights, apparently. It's not like there was a consistent motivation behind, they were clearly unwell mentally - reporting depression and suicidal thoughts for years - and did the shooting to be killed.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

My point was moreso that it's a bit odd that the immediate response to someone changing their first name is that they're trans or something. Especially since many cultures historically allowed people to change their names in accordance to their will, hell I think some parts of Greece your child name was a placeholder until you turned 16.

But yeah it's wholesale irrelevant as to what their identity was, what matters is that they did the act of shooting up a school. I'm more confused why they went after a Catholic school since they tend to be on the better end of religious schools, BYU and Liberty exist I severely doubt most folks would give a damn, note im joking no point going after a school when fucking Charlie Kirk still yet breathes.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy40znde9eko

"Westman's name was legally changed from Robert to Robin in 2020, Minnesota court records show. In the application the judge wrote: "Minor child identifies as a female and wants her name to reflect that identification.""

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Maybe if trans people weren't constantly treated like garbage they wouldn't lose their freakin minds and/or delete themselves.

[–] Voidist@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

The culprit's mother was the one who helped her change her name from her deadname. It appears that, at least in this case, she wasn't totally surrounded by haters.

[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is there any evidence this person was "constantly treated like garbage"? There is no excuse for murdering children.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

Is there any evidence this person was "constantly treated like garbage"?

Yes. They lived in the United States of America.