Grassroots organization will save us.
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Gavin is a continuation of the same type of Neoliberalism that made people apathetic enough to let Trump win.
Neoliberal control of the left leads to fascism
I wish people could really understand this.
Neoliberalism leads to fascism. Not like in a cartoonish they sit around in some fortress of evil planning a Nazi takeover.
Neoliberalism all over western society has shown itself ineffective at meeting people’s needs.
Neoliberalism wants free markets and limited governments. This leads to capital gaining a huge amount of power because the government categorically doesn’t want to regulate them. That power eventually turns to exploitation of the citizens and capture of the government.
Exploited citizens with an ineffective government get frustrated with a system that’s not meeting their needs. This is the dry tinder in which fascism catches fire, a charismatic person shows up and says “give me unlimited power and I can fix this quagmire you are in” and a lot of people go “fuck it, it can’t be worse than this” and you get a fascist dictator.
Neoliberalism leads to fascism not because they are the same but because neoliberalism creates the perfect environment for fascism to sprout and grow.
I would argue that fascism is more of a response by the elites to prevent citizen’s frustrations from becoming revolution. While fascism certainly uses populism to get power initially, it does not rise organically from the people, but is rather imposed by the ruling class.
I think we’re mostly agreeing, but it’s important to explicitly point out that fascism is a tool of class warfare. This explains why Democratic leadership is mostly just standing by and watching - they are also members of the elite (or are bought/controlled by the elite), so they are terrified that regular people will demand change that removes them from their high tower.
I agree with you there.
I think that’s part of the issue with neoliberalism, since it doesn’t care to reign in the abuses of the elites.
It’s interesting how the frustrated masses though are so ready to pick someone that’s clearly on the side of the ruling class.
I think that’s the part which might be more prominent in western culture right now. This paradox where people’s lives are made worse every day by businesses, businesses jacking up their rent, businesses gouging prices, businesses invading their privacy. And they finally have enough and go “we need someone to come in and run this country like a business.”
It’s amazing to watch millions of people have legitimate complaints and be completely unable to identify the source of their misery, so much that they hand it even more power.
Even more astounding to me is the large segment of the population who know that Trump is fascist and trying to become a dictator, yet can’t even be bothered to show up at a protest for two hours on a Saturday afternoon.
Literally all of my family and friends except for my partner (I’m so lucky there) fall into this category. Only two friends have attended a protest with me. One was clearly there just for the experience and the other was complaining the whole time that the protest won’t do anything.
You know who has been showing up in my area? The fucking boomers. It really feels like my generation is still waiting for mommy to fix the world for us.
It’s a good question.
Here are some facts we have to accept about the world first
So we are already down the road, whether we collectively want to admit it or not.
Here are some things you can do that might lessen some damage but are unlikely to stop the train
I would consider myself further left than any party and I hear people that share my views say that you should organize and build community solidarity. These are nice things, we should care for our neighbors and through tough times community can be a major source of strength. Not super likely to topple fascism but could make living through it better.
I see 3 scenarios where fascism fades into, well not really the background but the middle ground.
I think we should also understand that the ability to maintain an authoritarian state has improved since Hitler and Mussolini. Hungary, Turkey, the Russian Federation are all examples of effectively authoritarian dictatorships wearing the trappings of democracy to some degree.
America has long been a nation bought by lobbyists to do the bidding of the wealthy. It’s not too crazy to think that we end up just zombie marching along with just enough trappings of democracy to say “it’s not too bad yet” for a long time. We have the national guard occupying US cities while a masked police force abducts people off the streets and illegally traffics them to other nations to be imprisoned without due process and disappeared. There are many red lines that have been crossed that could have been when people stood up, but everyone is waiting for something. That thing might never come.
Community connections will be required to get us through a general strike. A strike is not something to go into lightly or without proper preparation, so start now.
P. S. In leu of a non-existent labor union, here's https://generalstrikeus.com/ Sign a strike card and spread the word.
Join a Marxist organization and build a socialist revolution. Communists are historically the most effective weapon against fascism.
Joining socialist organizations doesn’t mean abandoning local politics. If anything, it means getting more involved.
Exactly. Fascist-lite isn't all that better than Fascism itself, especially when it inevitably leads to the other.
So when the other side uniformly votes for a full Fascists who do we vote?
With our hearts, a third party candidate?
If the vote was tomorrow I'd write in AOC
Someone who is not a republican or democrat probably
And so the Fascists win again because we don’t have a Perfect Candidate 😖
Yes, and we should have organized for it 20yrs ago
Looks like those apathetic people were wrong, but like everyone else they'll never admit it
You still think everyone is gonna just randomly do what's best.
Awwww
Americans are stupid animals and Democrats are too dumb to appeal to stupid animals, that's why they lose.