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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 23 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Canada, a country that supported the US fight for independence, and has been their #1 ally ever since.

Uh... No it didn't, and no it wasn't.

Maybe starting like 50 years after that...

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_relations

At the outset of the American Revolutionary War, the American revolutionaries hoped the French Canadians in Quebec and the Colonists in Nova Scotia would join their rebellion. They were pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. When northeastern Quebec was invaded, thousands joined the American cause

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah this was hilarious hubris. The Yanks believed that everyone thought as they did.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I always thought Canada was with France, and supported USA in the American revolution.
Anyways up until recently Canada was generally thought (AFAIK) to be USA's closest ally.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Canada was still Loyalist British territory. Canada would have been on the opposite side of US and France.

Canada was also not a sovereign nation at that point, It was still multiple colonial territories. What became of Canada was essentially the territory that remained loyalist during the revolution, or territory the rebels americans failed to take.

so in other words, Canada didnt exist back then, it was just Loyalist Colonials and the British vs Rebel Colonials and the French. amongst other minor participants german mercenaries, dutch, natives etc

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They basically ran up and said "Hey we are liberating ourselves from the British. How about we help you do the same and with the French too and then we can all be one happy family. The Canadians did a "nah, that's all right, thanks" and walked away.

Honestly I believe that the US would have been in a better place if we remained like Canada or Australia. We could have avoided hundreds of years of bullshit.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I absolutely understand why USA didn't want to be a colony under a king. Where all the profits go to the king, and Americans had zero influence.
The idea of making a democracy is obviously better than a dictatorship.
But unfortunately they designed a very flawed democracy, in an attempt to maintain efficiency in governance.
I understand they didn't know better at the time. But why didn't USA reform their democracy already back in the 70's?
Of course it's because it worked reasonably well back then, and it was impossible to predict the rapid decline that started with Reagan.
The flawed democracy only worked as long as both sides respected and protected it, but Republicans began clearly disrespecting it already with Reagan, and it's only gotten worse since.

So now USA is in a situation where they are very near to require a new revolution to become a functional democracy.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The funny part is that there was a lot of propaganda. Example: no taxation without representation was actually false. The population in the UK was much higher than in the colonies, and since the colonies had members in parliament, they actually had a higher level of representation than other citizens.

But even back then, the UK was a democracy. The US took a look back at ancient Greece and combined that with a lot of 18th century philosophy to make the government we see today.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

You thought Canada...a British colony... Was siding with France against it's own owner in support of the the US in breaking away from Britain, but decided not to secede itself?!