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The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

https://www.politicalcompass.org/germany2025

Spd is a right leaning party no I'm talking about die linke

Edit: oops bsw is a russian support operation not a neoliberal party. I apologize for that mistake

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck bsw. The split is the opposite of a problem, it was desperately necessary and the catalyst for the Linke renaissance that I mentioned.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I am an outsider who only lived there a long time ago but it looks to me like the party was highjacked by neoliberals in order to split the vote. As far as I can tell German intelligence should have cracked down on both bsw and afd as soon as evidence emerged that they were part of a russian influence campaign. However the neoliberals instead ignored bsw's russian support... this seems to be an obvious attempt to split leftist parties in half. Die linke is one of the last remaining leftist parties in the g7 outside of france. italy's m5s is the other. And these parties seem to be losing to the right because the neoliberals sabotage them at every opportunity

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure how to make this any clearer: Die Linke is doing so much better both internally and in the polls / results since the fucks from BSW split off that I called it a renaissance twice now. And it was desperately necessary. BSW does not identify as left. Representatives actively reject the label and refuse to even pay lip service to leftist ideals, because they simply aren't left. It's time to let go of the notion this was "splitting the left".

Who really lost big time are the centrists. FDP, SPD, CDU to various degrees. Greens too but less so. Because xenophobic populism doesn't work for them nearly as well as it does for the fascists.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I should have recognized your point. Yes you are right. But I believe that the individual politicians inside of cdu csu sdp fdp etc as well as the bureaucrats inside of the state security apparatus believed that not countering russian propaganda would cleave the left and this may have backfired. Because it is strange that they outed afd as an obvious russian front but not bsw. Ex posto facto reasoning on my part but the other expla ation for the lack of action is that the German intelligence service truly believes that bsw is not a russian front or they think there's nothing illegal about russia operating a fake politician party.

But again I'm a foreigner who doesn't understand the German political system.

Im the usa though they did the same thing when they uncovered a russian influence campaign. They looked the other way and let it all go down (for the most part)