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The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.

[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they're masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.

At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.

The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.

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[–] meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like if someone dressed up as ice and joined in a raid only to cause internal chaos could deeply hinder the operations of ICE as they all become suspicious of each other and lose trust in their team.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have a prediction: the more professional and organized members of ICE would actually be foreign agents, causing problems at key points. Say, for example, "vanishing" unfriendly politicians. ICE is the perfect cover: Low recruitment standards, no regulation, bounties for those times you need to get money, and no one able to ask questions.

It would be the chaotic and unprofessional members of ICE that are native to the USA. Those would be just into ICE for the money and racism, not patriotism to their nation. This will become a "Lions Led by Donkeys" episode in a decade or two.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you think it's only foreign agents who would use ICE as cover to disappear politicians they don't like?

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 18 hours ago

I don't. However, it is the most obvious way for other nations to attack America without drawing attention. Hopefully, the same vulnerability would also allow the John Browns of our time to crack open concentration centers from the inside.

Why would they need to be 'foreign'(

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's so badly organised and chaotic anyway they wouldn't even notice

[–] meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago

Fair point. My girlfriend is Irish and compared them to the black and tans.