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The Force Awakens and its follow-ups had so few memorable characters, it’s a wonder Disney – and Oscar Isaac – are still talking about potential spin-offs

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[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today -3 points 6 days ago (12 children)

him being an Emperor retread doesn’t necessitate him being the big bad. it’s just means he’s evoking notes of a previous character.

"Evoking notes" of the previous character...who was the big bad.

[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 4 points 6 days ago (11 children)

yes, Palpatine was. Snoke was not, nor was he beholden to be.

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today -3 points 6 days ago (10 children)

But you said J.J. Abrams was being "unoriginal" with The Force Awakens. In other words, copying the original film/trilogy. In the original trilogy, the Emperor is clearly the big bad and this is established in the first film. So if Smoke is the equivalent of Palpatine, as was also established in the first film of the sequel trilogy, he is clearly the big bad up until Rian Johnson kills him off prematurely. Your core argument here doesn't line up.

[–] choochooMF@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The emperor was a footnote in ANH. He's mentioned in passing like once or twice. The big bads of that film were Tarkin and Vader, not the Emperor.

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today -2 points 6 days ago

In the original trilogy

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