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[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am once again asking liberals to learn that fascism doesn't mean "a thing I don't like"

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's authoritarian with large amounts of state capitalism combined with high amounts of nationalism. That sure as shit is not communist.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fascist states famously sold off large amounts of state assets to capitalists. Nazi Germany even inspired a new word for this, called "privatization" because they did it so much

It's okay to not have opinions on things you don't know. Learn so that you can create informed opinions

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Quite the opposite for Nazi Germany for the most part. The corporations became a central part of the state. The alternative name that Mussolini coined for fascism was corporatism for that very reason.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this is historically illiterate. the term privatization was coined specifically to describe what the Nazis were doing in Germany.

[–] commiecapybara@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Corporatism where the employers play a central role in the running of the state was a foundation of fascism.

[–] commiecapybara@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you wish to argue against the author's findings, you can contact gbel@ub.edu.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The author does not delve into corporatism.

[–] commiecapybara@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Correct. Because the Nazi economy was called 'privatization.'

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] commiecapybara@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Again, if you have evidence to the contrary, you can contact the author of the research paper, or you can submit your findings to a peer-reviewed academic journal. Here are some further academic sources that also support the claim that the Nazi economy was heavily engaged in privatization, and some relevant quotes:

"After the 1931 banking crisis the survival of the four German great banks was safeguarded only by a huge injection of taxpayers’ money. In return, the great banks were partly nationalized and the two worst affected, the Dresdner Bank and the Danat Bank, were merged. Re-privatization was, however, started only a few years later and finalized under Nazi rule in 1937."

Source: After the Crisis: Nationalisation and re-privatization of the German great banks 1931–1937

"There occurred hardly any nationalizations of private firms during the Third Reich. In addition, there were few enterprises newly created as state-run firms."

"The foregoing discussion is clearly corroborated by an analysis of Nazi intentions. Available sources make perfectly clear that the Nazi regime did not want at all a German economy with public ownership of many or all enterprises. Therefore it generally had no intention whatsoever of nationalizing private firms or creating state firms. On the contrary the re-privatization of enterprises was furthered wherever possible."

Source: The Role of Private Property in the Nazi Economy: The Case of Industry

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Sweety, Albert Speer literally said that NAZI Germany was "an daughter company of IG Farben".

[–] tuga@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You "study history" off of youtube don't you?

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Not in the least. Studied in Germany.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago

I am once again asking liberals to learn that words in general have meaning beyond synonyms for "good" and "bad".

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Good lord you butchered each and every single term you used in this comment.

Did you ever have a period in your life where you just shut up and listened until you felt you understood what was going on? It doesn't appear to be the case from the outside.

Now that you're in a community that's liberated from the US-centric echo chamber you just came from no more than a month ago, it's a very good opportunity to start now!