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'It's going to be really embarrassing for me'
"As it should be, you fascist pig"... would have been my reply.
I think it is safe to say that specific cop was just following orders that he doesn't really agree with.
Calling him a fascist is the same over generalization they are doing to anyone supporting the "terrorist" organization. And when you say the cop should quit rather than follow orders... you don't know thier situation. They may have a family depending on that job.
So what I am saying is, stop just calling everyone a fascist. It cheapens the insult for those who truely deserve it.
Do fascist stuff, you're a fascist.
I'm currently unemployed. ICE is hiring in my country. I'd rather fucking starve to death than join them or the police because I'm not a fascist.
See the difference?
There are fascists, and those who would rather die than be associated with them. Which one are you?
I do see the difference, you can only see black and white. You also have no long term vision at all. But a few other people can see the value of treating people like people and blaming the system and leaders for what they forced people to do.
I’m with you but have you considered joining just to fuck things up by being obstructive from the inside?
This is a bad idea for a ton of reasons, but the most important, I think, is that you are not immune to propaganda.
Look, if you join a fascist organization (of any sort - I'm not specifying any particular government or non-government organization here), by the time you finish your probationary period and have enough authority to take independent action, you're going to have spent months doing horrible things to innocent people. You're going to be surrounded by other fascists telling you those horrible things are right and just. You're going to be reading fascist propaganda everyday. You're going to have to repeat that propaganda and pretend you agree with it. And you'll probably be isolated from your friends and family who would tell you otherwise because, you know, you joined a fascist organization - except for the friends and family who support fascism and will be telling you what a great thing you're doing.
And so, instead of acting against the organization, you rationalize to yourself why it's not time to act yet. Or it's not bad enough to act. Or you have to keep your powder dry to do more damage later. Or you can't afford to act because your rent is due and you have a family to support. And meanwhile a steady diet of fascist propaganda moves you closer and closer to genuinely becoming a fascist.
Fighting from within is for people who are already stuck in an organization that changed around them - or people drafted into the organization who have no other choice. Pretending to be a fascist, as 4chan and gamergate showed us, is a very effective way to become one.
Yes, actually, but don't believe I'd be able to do much good. I could be "incompetent" and maybe achieve slower arrests and cost them money unnecessarily, but outside of just "accidentally" burning a precinct to the ground or something else that could be done by anyone, i feel joining would just make me another incompetent fascist slowly fumbling the agenda forward.