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Just want to make sure I have that right. He spoke up so now they are making shit up to try and defame him? Do I have this bullshit right?

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A sincere question: is English your first language?

Yes. Why do you ask?

I find it difficult to see it any other way.

I can see that. I think a lot of what you wrote follows if you assume they were not being sincere. Would you like to know how I saw it as sincere?

defense of celebrity culture

This is a minor point, but I wasn't defending celebrity culture. I was defending autonomy. In particular, had I been asked, I would have said that I was defending those who engage in interests that aren't a direct harm to people without being derisively criticized for having those interests by those who don't have them.

I didn't read it as him asking for someone to explain it to him.

This is causing me some emotional vexation. I also never asked for someone to comment upon my comment. Yet you, OP, and others did. I understood this to be the normal flow of conversation in this online community. I assumed it was part of the I stated norms. And now I'm being told that it is not and appears to be a rule just for me. I assume this special rule is for me because I wrote something in content or tone that people disagreed with. I don't think that is fair. Which is vexxing. I might be missing something, but I don't know.

[–] bobo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I only asked whether English was your first language because of our wildly different interpretations of Gorilladrum's post. Obviously, there's room for different interpretations among native speakers, but I thought it was a possibility that a language or cultural barrier may be in play.

I didn't mean to cause you any vexation. And dialogue is appropriate for online forums. I only meant that given my perspective on the post you were responding to, that it was a very sarcastic expression of exasperation, like someone yelling "FUCK!" It seemed to me that, despite his wording, he was actually just railing against the futility of keeping up with celebrities, rather than a lack of understanding of why some people do so. So it never would have occurred to me to respond the way you did. Obviously you read it differently and responded with a sincere attempt to shed some light on it. I can imagine it was frustrating to get downvoted so hard when you were making an earnest effort to help someone.

Anyway, you do seem like an interesting person, and I appreciate your interaction. I value your contributions and I will carry this forward into future interactions and not be so quick to assume people online are being sarcastic or condescending. I hope you walk away from this interaction with more positive feelings than negative ones.

Sounds good. Have a good day.