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    TranscriptFalse meme image that says "bad news ipv4 fans. linus torvalds has announced removing ipv4 support from the linux kernel after the maintainers of the network stack got into a fight over WHAT KIND OF HRT gives the best results. this incident will impact 5 billion people and will make 95% of all network equipment on Earth binnable." with fake screenshots of the linux kernel mailing list a girl calling another one a slur from 4chan over HRT choices and Linus Torvalds saying he will drop IPv4 support and asking the maintainers to learn to shut the fuck up.

    Source: https://rivals.space/@deuxnise/115032302416832519

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    [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 51 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

    I've encountered way too many administrators and network admins who swear that "IPv6 does nothing but cause trouble" but the truth is, the trouble it's causing is because you can't half-implement IPv6. You either roll it out to the whole network or you don't, and the longer you kick that can down the road the harder it's going to be.

    Basically too many professionals who haven't learned a new technology since 2005 and refuse to try new things keep holding the world back

    [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

    Can't even attempt to learn it if my ISP won't provide addresses though.

    Not been able to use it to even try, but doesn't IPv6 not have subnets at all? No 192.168.1.1 on your local network with a different public facing 85.136.52.142 (and with NAT444 you also have ISP facing 10.183.23.6). So does your ISP provide you a range of IPv6 addresses?

    [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 3 hours ago

    Correct, the ISP would assign you a /56 of public IPs that all share a prefix which you can slice and dice into however you see fit. All devices receive a publicly routable IP which your router/firewall would limit access to. So no running out of IPs ever, no network/IP collisions if you have to connect to another private network, etc.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

    A single IPv6 prefix has 2^64 addresses

    [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

    Why can't you just use it on your local network? Don't need ISP for that.

    [–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    I will happily enable and use it once doing so doesn't break any of my connectivity.

    I'm not managing an enterprise network, it's just my home, but my ISP doesn't support IPv6 so that's one extra layer of complexity right off the hop. On top of that internal services switch which previously required no manual configuration just seem to randomly not work.

    IPv6 is not going to see widespread adoption unless it can be implemented completely transparently for the end user, full stop.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

    IPv6 is widely adopted

    [–] disobey2623@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    I don't even have an ipv6 address, my ISP doesn't provide them yet. Not much to do about it then lol.

    [–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] disobey2623@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

    I wish I could but I'm afraid it's not possible at this address and it's not something I'm going to move for

    [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 9 points 19 hours ago

    I think what those admins really mean to say is "We don't need any of the benefits of IPv6, so IPv4 works just fine and making the large scale change is trouble.", when you already got your DHCP, NAT, Firewall and stuff up and things do work as expected then you don't really need NDP or SLAAC.

    [–] irish_link@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

    The issue for me is when I have it enabled and try to connect to a site that doesn't support it fully (same thing / half assed) and the site doesn't work properly. For home its my wife and kids that complain, when its the office then everyone complains. I get the blame for failed connections or things not working right when a fully compliant IPv6 site works just fine.

    Now I am not perfect so It could be me but I have read up and learned as much as possible. No expert but I did deploy DHCPv6 in a test environment. However there is no reason as of yet to deploy DHCPv6 locally since the address space is so wide. Just saying Its possible that the issue is me but from my understanding its like the U.S.A. switching to metric. Parts of us tried it but others didn't and thus we failed as a giant group.

    I think there needs to be a big ass push and force everyone to switch as the same time. I know some of the old devices may not work however those devices have to be 20+ years by now.

    [–] splendoruranium 1 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

    Basically too many professionals who haven’t learned a new technology since 2005 and refuse to try new things keep holding the world back

    If it ain't broke...

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

    ^ the admin holding the entire world back

    [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

    Imagine arguing that 'solutions' like NAT444 isn't broke as fuck

    [–] splendoruranium 1 points 7 hours ago

    Imagine arguing that β€˜solutions’ like NAT444 isn’t broke as fuck

    Well... yeah, why wouldn't that be "broke as fuck"?

    [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 12 hours ago

    I always bring it up when the network is experiencing problems that they wouldn't have with IPv6. Running out of IPs in a given scope, increasing costs of public IPs, etc.