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Trump says Ukraine needs to make a deal after summit with Putin ends without ceasefire
(www.reuters.com)
this post was submitted on 16 Aug 2025
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Agreed. But they are not going to stop, so we should let more people die?
If Ukraine were to all-out surrender, Russia would continue to kill Ukrainians and take territory. Do you really think Russia would pack up their stuff and go home?
An all-out surrender is not smart. There has to be a ceasefire and then diplomatic solutions sought for. As much as I dislike Trump, he is correct in saying that there will be land swaps. Ukraine has to get guarantees and security measures in exchange, without it there should be no deal.
Those guarantees and measures would be less than worthless. You are ignoring history.
Guarantees from US and Europe I mean. How can you take guarantees from your invader. But guarantees from them have also failed, so yeah I agree. But there has to be some sort of end to this massacre.
Guarantees from the current US administration are worth less than Russia’s would be
Yeah but problem is Ukraine cannot say this after burning through so much of US money.
There already was an agreement made when Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal, and look what happened. You are incredibly naive.
True. It was agreed that everyone will protect Ukraine. Russia was a bitch and broke it. What is stopping others from protecting Ukraine? Supplying weapons is not the end of their duty. They should have sent soldiers to fight, but they won't. Because they don’t want their people to die. It has been mare a proxy war.
If your home gets broken into are you not going to defend it? Or will you let the burglar keep your own house so he won't kill you.
I will defend it but once it is established that I am not going to win, I will seek to protect what I can instead of risking more for what has been lost.
Wow, you're fucking spineless.
What is the point in dying if it won’t make a difference
You wouldn't fight for your family sitting next to you? You wouldn't defend them with everything you have? Would you apologize to them for not doing anything to stop them being raped and beaten because "it wouldn't make a difference" anyway? Do you think it would change their view of you if you sat down when they needed you to stand up the most?
Wow. Doubling down on the spinelessness. I'd bet you're the type.of guy to sacrifice your own family to save your own skin.
That's why there are no revolutions anymore lol. It is easier to let others die than do anything that endangers self. Basically how the West views this war.
Ahh yes, I am drowning in money. Putin himself wrote me a cheque today. I am not cashing it, I will send it to you.