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Alt text: a photo of President Obama and Vladimir Putin shaking hands and smiling congenially.
Context: photo from 2013 before Crimeia invasion
Famously the first time Putin ever did something bad, yes
Yeah obama is really not a great example of international diplomacy.
Remember when we were on track to normalize relations with Iran and Cuba?
And I really gotta disagree with the first guy that Putin invading Crimea was in any way Obama's responsibility
Back when Israel wasnt killing 100+ people a day in Gaza? Fucking easy job that was back then yeah. Dont get me wrong, Trump and Biden were probably worse than Obama, but that doesnt make Obama a good diplomat. If you always hold your politicians to the standard of the likes of Trump, then the world is fucking doomed.
Were you a child during the Obama Administration? I ask because you clearly don't remember. You can repeat over and over "Obama wasn't a good diplomat," but that doesn't make it true.
I remember the civilian death count that he left behind. You can simp for him all you want, but that doesnt make him any less of a war criminal.
I mean, you can't blame Obama for that. If anything, it was mostly Europe and Angela Merkel's fault for wanting that sweet Russian energy.
Did you expect Obama to go against the whole world and attack Russia or something unilaterally? Would the US Congress even approve anything like that?
Europe is barely doing shit now to help Ukraine, and Ukraine is literally at war for its survival.
I mean, you can't blame Obama for that. If anything, it was mostly Europe and Angela Merkel's fault for wanting that sweet Russian energy.
Did you expect Obama to go against the whole world and attack Russia or something unilaterally? Would the US Congress even approve anything like that?
Europe is barely doing shit now to help Ukraine, and Ukraine is literally at war for its survival.
Europe is spending billions for Ukraine, building weapon factories there, taking in refugees, finding different distribution routes for grain, enforcing sanctions, training soldiers.
Now, yes. Don't act like they didn't drag their feet the entire way since 2014
Yeah! Europe bad, US good! All hail Trump!
America! Fuck yeah!
Edit: I'd like to clarify I do not actually possess this opinion. Let us boo 'Murica instead!
Edit 2: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger
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