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    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    It certainly seems like public opinion changed the tast ten years or so. As an ubuntu user, could you confirm or deny these claims I've seen? One is that firefox is a snap even if you try to install it with apt. Another is that they show ads to get paid ubuntu in the terminal output?

    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

    True and true.

    If you do a minimal install, it will still force apt to install snapd and snaps for certain packages, including Firefox. It can be worked around, but it’s very hard to keep snaps out of your system. This is why I dumped Ubuntu and never looked back. Fedora is my happy place, now.

    [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I can confirm them both. I'm considering moving to Debian because of this.

    You can uninstall snap and use flatpak for those apps but it was a slap in the face when Firefox suddenly was replaced by a snap through apt

    [–] davidagain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

    Oh that's a bit underhand, especially when they must be well aware that snap can be unpopular.

    [–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    If you really like Ubuntu, Linux mint Ubuntu version comes with the snap defaults removed.

    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I really liked Ubuntu back when the color scheme was more brown/orange, it seemed so friendly. The last ten years I've been on Debian though, but LMDE seems interesting.

    [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    LMDE is great, it's what I recommend to all new Linux users. Lots of tiny things that remove friction, like not requiring Sudo for apt and showing stars when typing a password.

    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

    I with they would align LMDE with regular Mint in one aspect though, that there would be an out of the box btrfs layout that matches what Timeshift expects (iirc @ and @home?) which is different from how debian and therefore LMDE sets it up automagically. Maybe this has changed in recent years.

    [–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    You got me there, firefox is the only snap I really use. Probably can be removed and replaced with apt version but honestly I don't care much. I tend to clean reinstall frequently and I leave as much in the default setup as I can.

    If it works, it works. But it does cause me to have another step to update everything, which is slightly annoying. And yes I don't like Canonical's insistence on snaps. I just try to avoid them really.

    Ads, certainly never seen them.