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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Show me where any vegan has ever argued that these deaths are okay? Your argument is both a strawman and bad faith. It's the equivalent of when people claim anticapitalists are hypocrites because they have no choice but to participate in the existing system to survive. Cheap.

Why are vegans in particular given blame for crop deaths, when it isn't vegans who are doing the farming? We have veganic forms of agriculture that we advocate for, and practice in the case of veganic farmers and gardeners. But until that gains more traction all anyone can do is the best they can, with what they have access to - which is far less harmful and destructive than omnis.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why are vegans in particular given blame for crop deaths, when it isn’t vegans who are doing the farming?

and most people don't slaughter animals. which, by the way, is one of my firmly held beliefs: we can't blame people for something they didn't do.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're paying for them to be bred and slaughtered, your hands have no less blood on them. What absurd mental gymnastics.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

no, they're not. all the people doing that are paid long before most people buy meat.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Going purely by the name you've chosen, is this your main schtick? Like are you a joke account that exists to reinforce stereotypes about communists not understanding how economics works? To think that factory farming could ever exist without the consumer demand to produce enough animal products to necessitate the unfathomably insane amount of animal abuse that is required to sustain it - you are completely deluded.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

what i said is true. you don't seem to be able to accept reality.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the linked four part essay excuses crop deaths

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Again, please point to anywhere in the article where it says crop deaths are okay?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

that's the whole thrust of the article. only an intellectual dishonest reading could find that's not the point.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or, you are the one giving it the most bad faith interpretation you can, and giving the most copout answer because you know your interpretation isn't in there.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

anyone reading this can draw their own conclusions about who is being intellectually honest.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's be real, at this point no one is reading this, and this discussion is pointless.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

so I can assume you are just downvoting me regardless of the truth of my claims?