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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We do not need to change human nature. We need to figure out more effective ways of countering the relentless skullduggery of rich shitheads.

Who are... not human? Or is that just their human nature coming out?

You are repeating a lazy old trope that encourages inaction and creates the current situation.

No, I'm stating the truth. You're wasting time trying to pretend that human nature isn't what it is.

We need to figure out how to counter the age old practice of entrenched rich interests

Keep trying to figure it out. I wish you luck. But, the truth is, it's not going to get much better than this. For 10,000 years of humanity as soon as there have been enough people in one place, there have been hierarchies, and typically the ones at the top have been much richer and much more brutal than what we have now. Often there are well-intentioned people who try to overthrow an old system that they think is unfair, and end up in one that's even worse. You might depose one authoritarian government and end up with one that's actually even worse.

Look at the results of the Arab Spring. Things got much worse in Syria, Yemen, Egypt, Lybia, Bahrain. It's only really Tunisia where things got better.

As for the Black Panthers, what lasting progress can you credit them with?

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I credit them with the fact we are talking about them.

You have given up before even trying.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

We also talk about the Confederacy.

I'm not giving up, I'm just acknowledging that it's not a simple matter.