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From this shot it looks impossible to get a bike from somewhere in the middle, but I assume there are paths? I'd love to see a few more pictures
This is Eindhoven Centraal, in the Netherlands.
Yes there is lanes. It's just a small lot on the south side of the station.
There is actually far more parking at this station than the image would imply.
The parking lot on the north side is quite a bit larger (it has double height racks, and also recently got expanded). There is also another small lot on the south side, and two more underground bike parking garages as well.
They are also planning to rework the area around the station, the plans for which include a further expansion of the underground parking garages
What an absolutely fantastic photo to show the difference between cars and bikes.
Open street map even has the exact numbers for you. Well at least for the bikes. I roughly counted 80 car spots and considering most cars only move one person thats around a 8:1 space efficiency difference.
I'm not sure if that number is correct.
I counted the bikes at the request of @tyler@discuss.tchncs.de
My rough estimate is about 1200 bikes, so that is closer to 1:15.
Idk if the entire lot has bike racks or if there is just a lot of flat ground with not infrastructure. But even if there are racks everywhere, people will always just park their bikes randomly into the smallest gap. The osm data could just be out of date ofcourse, but its probably just based on the number of bike racks/bars. Thats the only way you could reasonably map it imo.
I cycled there real quick
Looks like they've since converted the car park to a temporary taxi stand and disabled parking lot as well
Nice, thanks for the pictures (:
Also, impressive that they've removed the parking lots
It's all part of the station rework. They are going to use that space for housing.
Looks like the construction made the taxi stand temporarily unreachable, so this appears to be the solution they came up with.
Edit: Worth noting that on the north side of the station there is an underground car parking garage, so it's not like they have removed all parking.
I do think the accessibility of the station is quite well balanced though. It's pretty clear that bike and bus are the main methods by which they expect you to come to the station, with taxi and car as an option.
If you had to estimate, how many bikes?
Counted 99 bikes in one row, for a total of 10 rows and 4 partial rows.
So I'm guestimating about 1200 bikes
Sounds about right, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague and Utrecht all have large indoor bike parking for a few thousand as well. There is also a lot of bikes on the other side of the station.
Yeah we have lanes normally. Still can be a bitch if you have to wiggle it free from 5 surrounding bikes. At stations or busy areas there are also racks to put your bikes in and on top off, so we can use double the space for bikes. I am from the Netherlands and have lived in student cities, and Amsterdam.