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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 84 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Segregation of labor really started just recently. Go back 10000 years and you’ll find a more even split of roles. 10000 years is fairly evolutionarily negligible- we’re largely the same, aside from some immunity quirks, homeostasis tweaks, gamete peculiarity, and cultural differences.

Pluck a baby from way back and raise it today and you’ll just be raising a pretty average immunocompromised baby.

All of that to say, “women should be in the kitchen for their own good” is unsupported by an even slightly broadened perspective. I’m pretty sure Vikings aren’t coming to rape and plunder your 200 person town, bud. Hiding your wife away is just abusive.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

10000y is an incredibly long time if you believe the earth is only 2000 years old, or whatever these idiots believe.

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Case in point, men and women are almost 50/50 in STEM careers around Eastern Europe due to the USSRs policies pushing more women into these careers.

People don't realise that these norms they hold as dogma are so short-lived and subject to change that opposition only shows them unable to comprehend history past their lived experience.

It's ashame they have to drag us down with them.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I've seen some people talk about that as the harmful legacy of the USSR.

Mind you as a female engineer I agree with the communists about women.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago

While true, there is other issues with gender inequality in Eastern Europe like relatively higher domestic violence towards women and legislature to enable it in countries like Russia.

Inequality is a complex issue and needs to be looked at holistically. I have a feeling that often there is a focus on work and "career" although later seems to be mostly measured in some women who made it to C-levels. In that sense it remains an issue of women being supposed to "function" in a narrow line, rather than the system as a whole being questioned.

More women working full time is sold as a success of emancipation, despite it meaning more work overall for women who have children as some care work is difficult to delegate. At the same time it is a massive loss, that a lot of "life goals" like owning your own home require two full time income or just aren't reachable any more despite higher education levels.

When it comes to single parents, poverty becomes a strong problem and it helps enable abusive relationships as people are economically compelled to stay with an abusive partner. This issue moved on from the stay at home wives to women working full time too.

More income and less working hours are needed generally, and should help emancipation of women even more. In the eyes of capitalists that would be a grave "malfunction".

[–] Norodix@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm from eastern europe. This is bullshit.

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shit dawg all you had to say is citation needed.

Thornton, A., 2019. Gender equality in STEM is possible

[–] Norodix@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Case in point, men and women are almost 50/50 in STEM careers around Eastern Europe due to the USSR

around eastern europe -> contries in eastern europe that dont support this claim dont count obviously

due to ussr -> ussr not mentioned in citation

Anyway, this is a way too broad statistic that clumps together tons of fields which are actually pretty split. Basically statistics gerrymandering.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

During the golden age of the "American dream" where a man had a car, a house, and a family, didn't the housewives end up relying on all sorts of pills and shit to not go crazy stuck in the house all day?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Pills, shopping, and racism. Historically, people have always numbed their minds to cope with the rapidly changing reality we live in, though largely with alcohol and funny plants.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I must admit a cold beer and some funny plants do make me feel a little less distressed about the world being on fire.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

Plus soo many accidental male deaths. Such a darn shame.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

If i go into the kitchen it tends to annoy the husband as i'm intruding upon his Golden Triangle.

Unless there's tea being made.