that is if everything is going to plan and you just have to press the childs button and action, but you also have to get the device at the time to so you should at least add in 5 seconds for that. But again, children are not like this, so the care giver once per hour I am sure is having to type out some dumb thing this human just did, So I would say that 5 min to 10 min is spent on logging and tending the human that fell or freaked out.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Going based on my kids daycare, it's really not a problem. You're talking 30:1 kids to caregivers, and 8:1 is over the legal limit.

Like, I've hung out in the daycare. I've talked to the caregivers. It's not nearly the way you seem to think. They like it because it's easier than the documentation they would be keeping for their own purposes.
I'm typing this having just gotten back from dropping the kids off with them and hanging out chatting for a bit.

If the kid fell and bumped his head, I'm sure they are spending about five minutes logging and tending to them. Probably 20 seconds typing after 3 or 4 minutes putting an ice pack on it, giving them a hug and letting them sit on their lap.

[–] HorreC@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so wait you are saying they do have time to chat, which in a lot of these comments they state they dont have time for this. I think the logging of major things would be fine, but bathroom breaks and nap time hell all the other small things they have to log is dumb, and not really helpful if you are trying to get to the source of an issue (like bathroom incidences or they seem to be overly tired). Also I was never talking 30:1, if you look we showed its 10:1 legally.

Also how long did it take you to write that, were you on a phone or tablet? I know a lot of the people I know type really slow on a table due to how bad the keyboard is (this is not talking about a docked one). So pressing a few buttons then typing something out is like 2 to 5 min. I am just saying in the world where they dont have the time to talk to you (which I asked around and isnt the case, and you seem to say the same) they could be spending that time with the kids and then interact with me at the end/start of the day.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each

You literally said 30 kids.

https://childcare.gov/consumer-education/regulated-child-care/supervision-ratios-and-group-sizes

Staff:Child Ratio Group Size Infants: Younger than 12 months old 1 adult should care for no more than 3 infants No more than 6 infants in a group or class Toddlers: 13–35 months old 1 adult should care for no more than 4 toddlers No more than 8 toddlers in a group or class

For kids wearing diapers 8:1 is really pushing it and probably illegal anywhere in the US.

You talk about being required to log stuff when it's just something you keep track of when watching kids that age. They have routines, and they can't tell you their needs. You keep track of that stuff because you know their routine and it tells you where they are in it. 1:1 you can just remember. The second you add another adult you need to share data.
Many jurisdictions require logging (page 16) because it's best practice.
Using a computer just makes it easier and makes it so the checkout conversation can be entirely the qualitative report and conversation you seem to want it to be.

You're seemingly just declaring something to be an onerous burden and pointless when it's simply not.