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[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Big tent comrade. Some of us fart in our sleep, but we either climb in this thing together or else we both sleep in our own separate cardboard boxes.

[–] NaibofTabr 14 points 1 day ago

"We must assuredly all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago

These leftist kids today aren't getting it, but this is the only message that matters. If anyone is upset by this, feel free to craft a coherent argument.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, climb into the box with all the people willing to sell minority rights away to appeal to fascists. Like, "Hey you guys hate queer people right? Well, we actually will tolerate that over here! If you guys want to implement politics intended to drive trans kids to kill themselves, hey thats totally fine we would be willing to do that if you vote for us!"

This is the box youre asking trans people to climb into?

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

One side isn't supporting me and voted for some things that are harmful for me. The other side wants to put me in an extermination camp.

I can't decide these are the same

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Gavin literally had Charlie Kirk on his podcast, to tell Charlie that he agrees with him about trans rights. Charlie Kirk. Gavin Newsome should not run for president. There are better democrats who haven't bonded with a genocidal white supremacist over hatred of queer people.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago

I absolutely agree with you there. I have a long list of people I prefer. Newsome is in my mind is the choice one step above a republican, and that's just barely.

I hope we get someone decent through the primary. I detest our system, but until it changes the most moral thing I can do is pick harm reduction. I don't want to see anyone stripped of their rights. However, I also don't want to see anyone shipped off to death camps.

I can fight to restore rights to people, I can't fight to resurrect the dead.

Honestly after typing all this out revolution seems like the preferable thing at this point, but until then all I can do is pick harm reduction at the ballot box and fight for more.

[–] piefood@feddit.online -2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't see anyone in this thread say they are the same. I always find it quite telling how liberals have to make up points to argue against, instead of sticking to the points being made.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I would absolutely not define myself as a liberal. My ideal canidate has never been on the ballot. At this point I content myself with trying to prevent those that want death camps from getting power. When it comes to the available means at the ballot box choices are limited. That's by design of course, but it's foolish to not even try.

I'd say contextually my previous comment fits the discussion